Political Orientation Poll

[idleidolidyll]

Cripes.. National are so lefty under Key they mayswell merge with the green and call themselves the National Treehuggers. Not to mention facist/nazi parties dont generally have non white members and a jewish leader lol.

NZ has had a few niche facist parties registered over the years, but none of them have ever gotten more than a few thousand votes, a fact you should be greatful for because if a real facist party was voted into power you can bet your arse that when you can sit here and mouth off about rightwing government, you'd get a free ride to the gas chamber.

hilarious!

National is merely hiding and saying fuck all to suck in dummies.
As for right wing; we have ACT to play that game and if they ever got power they'd be fascists in an instant

[Sanx]

The nearest we come to fascism, based upon the true meaning of the word, in this country is the current government. National and ACT don't come even close. Labour and Greens however - they are properly fascist.

[Wolf]

The nearest we come to fascism, based upon the true meaning of the word, in this country is the current government. National and ACT don't come even close. Labour and Greens however - they are properly fascist.

Mussolini's fascist Govt, as I recall, was Authoritarian Right, Hitler's "National Socialist" party was pretty much Centrist and strongly Authoritarian.

ACT and National poll further Right and more Authoritarian than Labour and Greens so if you think Labour and Greens are "Fascist", wait until Nats or ACT get in, then there'll be some major whining about the nanny state - only thing is, all those currently whining about Labour and the Greens won't be able to blame them any more.

Sure, you'll still be able to blame them for policies and laws enacted under their nanny state, but who will be to blame for those not being retracted? Your beloved National.

You want those rules out? Vote for the parties whose policies are opposed to the nanny state. Parties that would work to remove restrictive and meaningless legislation.

But of course, that'll mean thinking for yourselves - Robert Taylor would never survive, he needs a Dictatorship to tell him how to run his life and protect him from the necessity of thought.

As to the no freedom of speech hinted at by Lias - the opening gambit has been made by Labour/Greens, watch it be expanded under the Nats or, worse, ACT.

[Sanx]

Mussolini's fascist Govt, as I recall, was Authoritarian Right, Hitler's "National Socialist" party was pretty much Centrist and strongly Authoritarian.

ACT and National poll further Right and more Authoritarian than Labour and Greens so if you think Labour and Greens are "Fascist", wait until Nats or ACT get in, then there'll be some major whining about the nanny state - only thing is, all those currently whining about Labour and the Greens won't be able to blame them any more.

Sure, you'll still be able to blame them for policies and laws enacted under their nanny state, but who will be to blame for those not being retracted? Your beloved National.

You want those rules out? Vote for the parties whose policies are opposed to the nanny state. Parties that would work to remove restrictive and meaningless legislation.

But of course, that'll mean thinking for yourselves - Robert Taylor would never survive, he needs a Dictatorship to tell him how to run his life and protect him from the necessity of thought.

As to the no freedom of speech hinted at by Lias - the opening gambit has been made by Labour/Greens, watch it be expanded under the Nats or, worse, ACT.

What makes you think that the Nats and ACT are more authoritarian than Labour / Greens? The Labour / Green / NZ Last coalition have been quietly banning things left right and centre. More rules, more regulation, more red-tape, more tax. Right-wing parties do have a habit of nattering on about choice and free-will. And to be honest, not many of them have a very good track record in upholding it. However, most of the policy statements and opinions I see from National and ACT go counter to the nanny-state mentality of the current left-wing crowd.

If you have any proof to the contrary, though, please feel free to share it.

[Wolf]

If you have any proof to the contrary, though, please feel free to share it.

Try looking at where National's and ACT's policies place them on the 2005 table at the political compass site. Labour is not "left", it's currently slightly right of centre and so more centrist these days than its traditional left wing stance. National is to the right of Labour, ACT even more so. ACT was marginally less authoritarian than Labour back then (and I must admit that I don't fully know how far they have shifted in the last couiple of years but I do not trust ACTs policies); National was definitely more authoritarian than Labour and I seriously doubt that even the last couple of years of upward shift has been enough to put Labour higher than the Nats.

National has made no secret of its support of GW Bush and it is no great leap of imagination to see a more US-like set of "security policies" to get us "in good" with the frothing Republicans under a National govt.