Wanganui street races

[Sully60]

I think that's what's partially driving their descision mate, Motards being one of the favourites from a spectators point of view

Yeah but good enough for a total of five races?

Quite funny when competitors get all tough and try and staunch each other out from what I remember too......

Yeah I must admit my knuckles are in much better condition since I stopped motarding.

But I was the one more used to being staunched than doing the staunching as you have already pointed out in a previous post.

Maybe they should have a class for 142 cc twin cylinder bikes with the number sixty. I think that would be really exciting (for me anyway)

but I found the dirt section to be an anticlaimax. Maybe as our NZ riders get more used to it, it will be more of a spectacle?

The temporary nature of the off road section wasn't really what it should have been IMH(Spectator)O, the dirt surface was a bit loose and really a bit short, the jumps were pretty cool but more room to wind them up on the dirt would have been the shit. Slowing them down to turn on the dirt is the interesting part

[Clivoris]

There's also one in particular who's to busy showing of to get the fuck out of the fast guys way when they lap him

Agreed. The circus acts could put on a lunchtime show.

Yeah but good enough for a total of four races?


The temporary nature of the off road section wasn't really what it should have been IMH(Spectator)O, the dirt surface was a bit loose and really a bit short, the jumps were pretty cool but more room to wind them up on the dirt would have been the shit. Slowing them down to turn on the dirt is the interesting part

True that too.

[slowpoke]

Aaaaah fuggit!
Having been out of the country for nearly 20 years I was like a kid before Christmas at the prospect of spectating at Wanganui last year.....and despite perfect weather I came away disappointed at how far the event hadn't progressed.
Apart from the taller wire fence around the track it was like stepping back in time. What should have been built up into a real festival seems to have hardly progressed in anyway whatsoever.
In parts standards have actually dropped, with one teenage female marshall walking around in socks, hardly able to stand still on the hot bitumen when a rider went tits up, then her equally inept colleague trying to get the bike off the track stabbing up and down at the brake lever trying to get it out of gear. When another accident ocurred at the following corner she decides she could get a better look by standing in the middle of the track, back to the traffic, as bikes are still hammering up from the corner before. Where are the crusty old enthusiasts with a decent head on their shoulders?
Gaaaah! I get angry at the thought of what the event could and should be.
Back to the topic, could we be partly to blame ourselves for the F1/F2 class? I mean the Vic Club allows F2 bikes into F1. I can't help feeling this cross entering has had an effect on the lack of Superbikes around (12-13 at National events) as people seek to double their race time. I reckon you should only be allowed to cross enter one race per event, and only if you are in Clubman's, just to gauge your ability to step up. We have effectively dumbed down our racers by encouraging them to stay in 600's rather than progressing to a Superbike. I mean why would Jay Lawrence, Chris Sucich and co want to step up and only get half the track time?
That 600's have been successful in the past, thanks in no small part to that freak Mr Shirriffs, has probably played a part in the decision to amalgamate the classes too.
An Aprilia SXV550 motard is obviously the weapon of choice if you want lots of racing at Wanganui. By my reckoning you'd be eligible to compete in 12 of the 19 races if you are good/fit enough.

[k14]

By my reckoning you'd be eligible to compete in 12 of the 19 races if you are good/fit enough.

Nope, new rule this year mean motards can only race in motard races. Not allowed to be with proper bikes (F1/F2/F3) . So supermotard is only allowed in supermotard class. Pretty sure they aren't allowed to race in bears either.

[GSVR]

Aaaaah fuggit!
That 600's have been successful in the past, thanks in no small part to that freak Mr Shirriffs, has probably played a part in the decision to amalgamate the classes too.

What happend last year was one bike per class. If you wanted to enter F1 and F2 you had to enter 2 seperate bikes.

But apparently you could still ride one of those bikes in bike in both F1 and F2 so go figure that one out.

Not allowing cross entery was good for keeping the classes seperate but big teams with plenty of bikes (motards included) could still race out of class by just enteruing another bike.

[roogazza]

What a shame, Wanganui used to be such a great event, just like all the other street circuits ! Maybe its dying ?
I thought I was just getting old last year when I decided to flag it , but I think this year ,again, I'll opt for a nice blast on my own somewhere.

Maybe all the newbies think its great, but I'm lucky enough to have experienced the best years.......... Gaz.

[Deano]

Well that's it then - I'm boycotting Wanga's this year !! ( I wasn't going to do it anyway with family committments).

Sounds like a great opportunity for a multi sport though - Ultimate Fighter Motarding. That way if you're getting beaten you can wait until being lapped then take out the leader in a reverse naked choke. It would make a great team sport. Think of the camaraderie potential.

[Sully60]

Sounds like a great opportunity for a multi sport though - Ultimate Fighter Motarding. That way if you're getting beaten you can wait until being lapped then take out the leader in a reverse naked choke. It would make a great team sport. Think of the camaraderie potential.

Now that would be STAUNCH

[Joni]

Last years race was a royal f*** up for one of the Chch sidecar teams due to new rules popping up without much communication to the teams... They were gutted and basically dragged the sidecar back to Chch with their tails between their legs. I was gutted for them, and because of the fiasco the event wont be seeing Alex Mc racing there again.

After this new rule popped in for this year, I can only wonder what is in store for all the racers for next year... Hmm, hope they dont completely stuff a really great event.

[steveb64]

Aaaaah fuggit!
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Back to the topic, could we be partly to blame ourselves for the F1/F2 class? I mean the Vic Club allows F2 bikes into F1. I can't help feeling this cross entering has had an effect on the lack of Superbikes around (12-13 at National events) as people seek to double their race time. I reckon you should only be allowed to cross enter one race per event, and only if you are in Clubman's, just to gauge your ability to step up. We have effectively dumbed down our racers by encouraging them to stay in 600's rather than progressing to a Superbike.
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MNZ Rules: Appendix A - Sports Production Regulations.

1. Sports Production Classes
501cc – 600cc 4-stroke 4 cylinders maximum
601cc – 675cc 4-stroke 3 cylinders maximum (including 750V twins)


MNZ Rules: Appendix C - Production Superbike Regulations.

1 Capacity
700cc ~ Open 4-stroke 3 & 4 Cylinder
800cc ~ Open 4-stroke Twin Cylinder

Why can't the under size limit bikes be protested out? Seems like a clear breach of the MNZ rulebook.
Sure, some 600's can get around a tight twisty track faster than a 1000. So what? If they're allowed to ignore the class capacity limits, then why shouldn't the 1000's be allowed to race in the 600's class at places like Puke?

Isn't that WHY there's cc limits in place - both maximum AND minimum? To prevent unfair advantage?

Follow your own rules MNZ!

[cowpoos]

MNZ Rules: Appendix A - Sports Production Regulations.

1. Sports Production Classes
501cc – 600cc 4-stroke 4 cylinders maximum
601cc – 675cc 4-stroke 3 cylinders maximum (including 750V twins)


MNZ Rules: Appendix C - Production Superbike Regulations.

1 Capacity
700cc ~ Open 4-stroke 3 & 4 Cylinder
800cc ~ Open 4-stroke Twin Cylinder

Why can't the under size limit bikes be protested out? Seems like a clear breach of the MNZ rulebook.
Sure, some 600's can get around a tight twisty track faster than a 1000. So what? If they're allowed to ignore the class capacity limits, then why shouldn't the 1000's be allowed to race in the 600's class at places like Puke?

Isn't that WHY there's cc limits in place - both maximum AND minimum? To prevent unfair advantage?

Follow your own rules MNZ!

streets are run under old F1/F2 type rules...much in the same way most clubs rule f1/f2 rules...

just because MNZ sanction the event...doesn't mean their championship rules are followed.

[steveb64]

streets are run under old F1/F2 type rules...much in the same way most clubs rule f1/f2 rules...

just because MNZ sanction the event...doesn't mean their championship rules are followed.

Ahh bugger! Hmmph - I thought "Aha! The old F1 rules were basically the same." - was about to rush out and retreive one of my old ACU rulebooks - then thought to look at the entry form pdf at the top...

MNZ General Road Racing & these local Supplementary Regulations

Thats an argument stopper. I guess as long as they put it in the "local supplementary Regs" - they can make up any rule set they like! Sigh.

[Bykmad]

People. It is a ROAD RACE meeting, not a bloody Moto X on the road. If you dont like it, TELL THEM so. I have been going to it since I was born, and last years was THE WORST!!!
I go there for the racing, the people and the atmosphere. I used to think of it as NZ's small Isle of Man TT. If this year is not MUCH better, I'll not be going again, and I've been there 45 times.

[Sparky Bills]

6 ozzie super retards....
Well there go the top 6 placings in that class!
Its all for the spectators. Combining F1 and F2 is the just stupid! I wasnt going to bother, but id much rather be dead last than stand and watch all day.
I simply couldnt do that.

[Kickaha]

People. It is a ROAD RACE meeting, not a bloody Moto X on the road. If you dont like it, TELL THEM so. I have been going to it since I was born, and last years was THE WORST!!!

I emailed them last year as I thought it was the crappiest meeting I'd attended (as a rider)and so did a couple of others, none of us got a reply