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    Media manipulation

    Here in NZ we are extremely lucky to live in a nation noted by experts as having one of the very freest medias on the planet.
    Since Sept 11 2001 however, that has slowly been changing and it cannot be taken for granted that media honesty and freedom will continue in NZ. Some say it is already dying.
    I take this opportunity to breathe a sigh of relief that we have not yet reached the state of corruption extant in US corporate media but, with free market policies and the trend for media to concentrate down to just a few, (90% of the worlds media in democratic nations is owned by just 6 companies), that is likely to change and only those people awake to the danger can stop it happening.

    I therefore submit this for your attention and perusal:

    How can a journalist or a news consumer tell if a story is true or false? There are no exact rules, but the following clues can help indicate if a story or allegation is true.


    We all need to be extremely grateful that the State department has it's own advice section on what we should and should not believe. I for one find it incredibly difficult to believe straight facts, even when they put the government in a bad light. Thank goodness that everything the government does and says is accurate. It is important to have a bench mark of truth against which we can formulate our beliefs.

    Of course I am being sarcastic. The State Department cites websites such as Rense.com as "MISINFORMATION". The majority of material on Rense.com consists of mainstream media reports which are well written by good journalists, but are simply not seen on the nightly news. The majority of the subject matter on Rense is often also covered on Prison Planet and Infowars, so by attacking Rense as a source of "unreliable information", The State Department is also attacking us.

    Let us go back a few months and highlight a story that quickly bloomed into a national scandal. The LA Times and the Boston Globe reported on how the government had spent millions of taxpayers dollars on the production of FAKE NEWS REPORTS. Yes that's right, ILLEGAL FAKE NEWS REPORTS on Medicare. Viewers were duped into believing that what they were seeing was a balanced news report when in actual fact it was covert Propaganda produced by the government.

    ''You think you are getting a news story but what you are getting is a paid announcement," said Susan Poling, managing associate general counsel at the Government Accountability Office. ''What is objectionable about these is the fact the viewer has no idea their tax dollars are being used to write and produce this video segment."

    HOW DARE the government do this and then tell us how to identify unreliable information! The State Department even tell us how they do it:

    Extremist groups, such as splinter communist parties, often publish disinformation. This can be especially difficult to identify if the false allegations are published by front groups. Front groups purport to be independent, non-partisan organizations but actually controlled by political parties or groups.

    We have also reported on how this kind of activity is also going on in Britain as well as the US. Our so called free press is being paid to spread misinformation that suits the agenda of our governments.

    Consider the source: Certain websites, publications, and individuals are known for spreading false stories

    Two words - JEFF GANNON.

    Earlier this year the story broke that The Bush administration provided White House media credentials to a man who has virtually no journalistic background, asks softball questions to the president and his spokesman in the midst of contentious news conferences, and routinely reprints long passages verbatim from official press releases as original news articles on his website. This story was another national scandal that uncovered the fact that, more so than any other media outlet, it is the government that disseminates misinformation.


    Highly controversial issues - AIDS, organ transplantation, international adoption, and the September 11 attacks are all new, frightening or, in some ways, discomforting topics. Such highly controversial issues are natural candidates for the rise of false rumors, unwarranted fears and suspicions.

    Here is a list of every mainstream media source you could think of reporting on the issue http://www.vachss.com/help_text/organ_trafficking.html

    Oh and here is the State Department themselves covering the issue. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/rm/2001/3792.htm

    Remember "consider the source".

    In March 1992, then-Russian foreign intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov admitted that the disinformation service of the Soviet KGB intelligence service had concocted the false story that the AIDS virus had been created in a US military laboratory as a biological weapon.

    The subject of the creation of the AIDS virus is in the 1969 congressional record House Resolution 15090 where scientists discuss making it. One physician mentions a government-sponsored research project that would create a "synthetic biological agent ... for which no natural immunity would have been acquired."

    Dr Boyd Graves has relentlessly researched the synthetic origin of AIDS. Furthermore Nobel peace laureate and ecologist Wangari Maathai has gone on record as asserting that the AIDS virus was a deliberately created biological agent. The "Urban Legend" is the claim that AIDS comes from monkeys. If in doubt use the monkey theory, it works everytime - everything comes from monkeys because they are a bit like us.

    Of course, according to the government, any theories that do not match the official line on the 9/11 attacks are a conspiracy. Strange here in this State Department report though how they only cite the most "out there" 9/11 theories such as the missile at the Pentagon and others that are simply meaningless and pointless. We have made it clear that we feel the missile theory does not hold water, yet it is interesting that several times Donald Rumsfeld has mentioned a missile hitting the Pentagon on 9/11. Slip of the tongue or MISINFORMATION?

    How about the stand down of NORAD, the drills of flying aircraft into the same targets on the same morning, the admission from the WTC owner that Building 7 was deliberately demolished? How about the key issues on 9/11? Are they all conspiracy theories or Urban legends too or are they provable facts that simply get lumped in with the wacky misinformation? Remember "we must not tolerate any wild conspiracy theories regarding the attacks of 9/11".

    DU remains radioactive longer than the age of the earth (estimated at 4.5 billion years).
    Professor Yagasaki a physicist and well-respected nuclear radiation expert, from the
    University of the Ryukyus, Okinawahas, calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent to 83,000 Nagasaki bombs in a paper presented at the World Uranium Weapons Conference in Hamburg in October 2003. The amount of DU used in Iraq in 2003 alone was equivalent to nearly 250,000 Nagasaki bombs.

    We have documented how the former head of the Pentagon's Depleted Uranium Project, Dr Doug Rokke, asserts that thousands of troops are sick and dying from illegal DU use.

    “The VA has determined that 250,000 troops are now permanently disabled, 15,000 troops are dead and over 425,000 are ill and slowly dying from what the Department of Defense still calls a mystery disease. How many more will have to die before action is taken?”


    Further eminent scientific minds such as Dr Keith Baverstock PhD; Department of Environmental Sciences, University of Kuopio, KUOPIO, Finland, who presented evidence to the European Parliament in June 2003 have gone public, stating how the evidence on DU is irrefutable and is being ignored.
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    III I truly am beginning to believe that you are seriously lost. Your profile states that you are in Manukau. Maybe there is a Manukau in America somewhere.... but please be assured that this is KIWIbiker, thus the implication is that we are in NZ....
    Why, oh why do you continue to berate us about US policies, US news. We have no State Department ipso facto it is not lying to us.
    Please make threads like this stop!
    Please?
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    Please don't share too many "secrets" about media manipulation, or some of us may be looking for alternative employment!

    Joking aside, media the world over doesn't have the time or resources to devote to serious determination of what is fact or fiction. They are driven by competition for audience numbers. If they get a story wrong, then that's another story and it's probably because of an unreliable source in the first place. Their objective is to be first with the "news". I am reminded of throwing bread to ducks at Hamilton lake as a teenager and wondering what would happen if a peach stone or piece of gravel was thrown into the fiercely competitive melee. Sure enough, some greedy mallard hoovered it down, for no other reason than to stop another duck eating it.

    Like politicians, society gets the media it deserves. Ours suffers from cosiness and laziness, just like the rest of New Zealand. No surprises there.
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaf View Post
    III I truly am beginning to believe that you are seriously lost. Your profile states that you are in Manukau. Maybe there is a Manukau in America somewhere.... but please be assured that this is KIWIbiker, thus the implication is that we are in NZ....
    Why, oh why do you continue to berate us about US policies, US news. We have no State Department ipso facto it is not lying to us.
    Please make threads like this stop!
    Please?
    These threads should be like a game of bar billiards (if anyone knows what that is)....if you knock the black skittle down you loose all your points.......and when the timer bar goes down!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Please don't share too many "secrets" about media manipulation, or some of us may be looking for alternative employment!

    Joking aside, media the world over doesn't have the time or resources to devote to serious determination of what is fact or fiction. They are driven by competition for audience numbers. If they get a story wrong, then that's another story and it's probably because of an unreliable source in the first place. Their objective is to be first with the "news". I am reminded of throwing bread to ducks at Hamilton lake as a teenager and wondering what would happen if a peach stone or piece of gravel was thrown into the fiercely competitive melee. Sure enough, some greedy mallard hoovered it down, for no other reason than to stop another duck eating it.

    Like politicians, society gets the media it deserves. Ours suffers from cosiness and laziness, just like the rest of New Zealand. No surprises there.
    I like cosiness......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaf View Post
    III I truly am beginning to believe that you are seriously lost. Your profile states that you are in Manukau. Maybe there is a Manukau in America somewhere.... but please be assured that this is KIWIbiker, thus the implication is that we are in NZ....
    Why, oh why do you continue to berate us about US policies, US news. We have no State Department ipso facto it is not lying to us.
    Please make threads like this stop!
    Please?
    Because this affects us all regardless of our supposed isolation.

    BTW: Nobody is forcing you to read my posts or indeed respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Please don't share too many "secrets" about media manipulation, or some of us may be looking for alternative employment!

    Joking aside, media the world over doesn't have the time or resources to devote to serious determination of what is fact or fiction. They are driven by competition for audience numbers. If they get a story wrong, then that's another story and it's probably because of an unreliable source in the first place. Their objective is to be first with the "news". I am reminded of throwing bread to ducks at Hamilton lake as a teenager and wondering what would happen if a peach stone or piece of gravel was thrown into the fiercely competitive melee. Sure enough, some greedy mallard hoovered it down, for no other reason than to stop another duck eating it.

    Like politicians, society gets the media it deserves. Ours suffers from cosiness and laziness, just like the rest of New Zealand. No surprises there.
    That's mostly true but importantly, senior reporters and editors have been sacked for printing stories that corporates didn't like regardless of their truth. It has been noted by those in the media themselves that the media is controlled by corporates to such an extent that reporters and editors 'self edit' to keep their jobs.

    The question then of course is "What aren't they telling us and why?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post

    Like politicians, society gets the media it deserves. Ours suffers from cosiness and laziness, just like the rest of New Zealand. No surprises there.
    This bit isn't true though.
    What happens is that we get the media that those with power want us to have and sophisticated propaganda ensures that most believe they are getting a good service when in fact they are getting a heavily censored service.

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