I wonder what the woman at the center of this discussion would think of Disco Dan parading the fact he allegedly 'conquered' her. Is it something that would compulse her to have sexual relations with him again, or repulse her?
Woman of Kiwi Biker, place yourselves in this womans position and share with us your respective opinions.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Nope, that would be a negative. I don't have a god and I don't believe in death do us part. Too many people have clearly illustrated that the "'til death" can become a goal in itself.Originally Posted by jrandom
As for screwing around - marriage doesn't matter. If you're in a long term relationship sharing your life with someone it is no different.
So women can't be devestated now?If you would be prepared to cause that devastation in another man, whether or not he'd end up blaming you for it, I would think less of you.
However, I'm most definately not saying that I would!
But if you were single and out on town and met a hot girl who didn't tell you that she was in a relationship, took her home, had sex, parted ways - how could anyone blame you for that?
If she made that call then there would be only two plausible explanations:
1. She's in an open relationship (not that common I believe)
2. She isn't happy with where she's at...
If a relationship isn't working out, unless both parties are agreed, one will be left worse off than the other.
Furthermore, how people react to their partner cheating on them varies quite a bit. I've seen everything from devastation over resignation to forgiveness...
Honourable thing - in relation to who?If you want to fuck a woman who's with someone else, the honourable thing to do is to tell her that you'll talk to her once she's terminated her existing relationship and clearly communicated to her partner the reasons that she considers it unsustainable.
If you want to fuck someone, the honourable thing is to tell them that you want to fuck them!
If you want to fuck someone who's in a relationship - then the honourable thing is to tell them that you want to fuck them despite them being in a relationship.
If you want to have someone as a partner who's in a relationship it's honourable to suggest them to terminate their current relationship.
I wouldn't know, I can count my number of sexpartners on my fingers...If you just want casual sex, there are plenty of unattached women out there who will be happy to treat you as a life support system for a penis.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Hardcore Biker
I got a good one thanks, it's not me you have to avoid as it wasn't my wife that your nailing. But, I do have a very attractive x wife that would suit you by the sounds of your morrals (none). And as they say, it takes two to tango so you most likely did the guy a favor. How come no promotion for you? Do you must have a realy small cock along with no idea on how to use it.
Forum whore
No, no it's not. Someone you don't even have the nuts to dedicate your life to in front of God/friends/family/your pets/whatever, is not in the same ball park as being married. Not even the same freakin league.
e mare libertas
Tut. Of course they can. I was speaking of the particular situation of you or I shagging one who was already committed, and thereby devastating her man.
Then you and her current partner would both, in a sense, be victims of the lying little whore.
Of course. But honesty is always essential.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
This is where we'll have to agree to disagree.
I choose my partner everyday.
My friends and my family knows this.
As for my pets (none at moment) and whatever - I don't give a fuck what they think!
Furthermore, I don't believe in ceremonies or traditions.
Why would I want to get married - ever?
It would be extremely hypocritical of me getting married in a church since I don't believe in the institution to begin with.
Marriage has nothing to do with commitment and all to do with traditions.
If you want to get married, fine by all means do so and I shall not think less (or more for that matter) of you for your choice. And I would happily show up and join the ceremony to show my respect for you.
But please do respect that other people might have another opinion than yours. Thank you.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Forum whore
Ahhh, to be young and stupid again... One day, you'll know why
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
What if I fuck a lesbian? I got a thing for lesbians...
So now I'm a victim - what if the sex was really good, would that make up for it?Then you and her current partner would both, in a sense, be victims of the lying little whore.
My point is just that cheating on your partner is a matter that concerns the people in the relationship. Not whoever happened to tickle the offending partners fancy.
Here we agree 100% - too bad so many people don't share our viewOf course. But honesty is always essential.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
e mare libertas
You may choose to believe that a public statement of lifelong commitment is meaningless; others may disagree.
I, for instance, take away from that exchange the opinion that, while you're unlikely to cheat on your girlfriend, imdying is far less likely to ever cheat on his wife.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
e mare libertas
And my point is that I could not live with myself if I knowingly let myself be used to cause the pain that cheating always incurs, regardless of any arguments that can be put forward to the effect that I do not have the same responsibility in that situation that the cheating partner does.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Well, now you just presume to know me (and almost by extension my partner as well).Ahhh, to be young and stupid again... One day, you'll know why
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Forum whore
No presumption, it's an opinion based on evidence
As far as the tradition stuff goes, these days, you can have your wedding any way you desire, needn't be in a church or with a fluffy white dress... of course, anyone who thinks that the wedding is the most important part of marriage, is missing the point somewhat (not aimed at you)
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
That pretty presumptous - as I said to imdying, you don't actually know me.
Furthermore, you propose that while imdying is married there's still a non-zero probability that he'd cheat on his wife. (And imdying, I don't know you so I have NO way of making any assumptions on that part).
I'm not married, and I'm not going to say "I'll NEVER cheat on my girlfriend!" simply because I don't believe in absolutes.
Let's assume for a second that me and the married man both went out and screwed around - which one would be the bigger hypocrite?
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
That evidence must be considered circumstantial in the extremeNo presumption, it's an opinion based on evidence
True, I agree 100% with that. That is another reason I would never undertake the ceremony - to some extent it has become a watered out dress-party where people are trying to outdo eachother in pomp and circumstance.As far as the tradition stuff goes, these days, you can have your wedding any way you desire, needn't be in a church or with a fluffy white dress... of course, anyone who thinks that the wedding is the most important part of marriage, is missing the point somewhat (not aimed at you)
If you believe in god and the 'til death do us part by all means do go for it. I'm just not there, and am quite certain I'll never be.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Geriatric hoon
Pschologists call this the "halo effect" generally to be avoided of course...
Shit! I never stood a chance...
Oh, and I don't think she meant help with bullet points either.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
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