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...racing with cars dont work...full fucking stop...
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...racing with cars dont work...full fucking stop...
HD is no differnt to most (if not all) big circuits overseas. where as you have to move around to view from various points. Although a grandstand on in side of T1 woul;d be good as wouls anothe between at T4 and up the rise. need to be high so looking down on action.
We are spoilt having race track such as taupo/Manfield/puna where you can see almost all the circuit.
At least at HD you dont miss 2 race getting from one vantage point to another like some tracks in Europe.
... been there, no difference between speedway or asphalt...different crowds with different mindsets...different dollars ...have tried to work with car type people in events, never been treated as anything other than entry money and a piss or hotdog break...cant see it ever changing...does us no good in the end...
...we all seem to have a beef about a liter or two of haemorrhage from a chair or a classic on the race line...check out the obstacles that a rider would have to contend with after a 10 or 15 lap car race...we can do better than that...
Works a treat in ozzy, they have been running with V8s for a few years now. Motorcycle racers dont do much for themselves as far as image is concerned. Everyone knocks old Biggles but if everybody tried to look a tad professional maybe the public would see motorcycle racers in a different light. I watched the coverage from the cemetery circuit, cant imagine any business man looking at the interviews and thinking wow those guys are well presented id like to get my logos on there shirts lol
My family is heavily involved in high end car racing and they are all their friends are surprised how good it is to watch the bikes racing and would love to see them at the racing events. Only the proper ones though that go fast
Speed = excitement ?, Taupo has hosted a drifting / truck racing / motard and people used the motard as an opportunity to check out the pits, it's what floats your boat and you're never going to see more than "an average number" at any event, if that average have money then events are more successful. As a young fella keen to be part of an event (golden handlebars at manfield) camping onsite to cut down expense helped, as did less redtape (cheers Mr Gibbs).
Seems to me they're there to be fashionable rather than because they're actually interested in racing as such
rac·ing
/ˈrāsiNG/
Noun
Any sport that involves competing in races.
in any sport there can't be a first place unless someone is there to get last, and there's various levels of equipment and abilities no matter what the game that's a simple fact and it's poor sportsmanlike attitudes like this that means a lot of 'sports' we have now are in fact businesses first and a sport secondary.
Kiwis need to learn that when two teams walk onto a feild that most of the time one will win and one will come second.
How many out there remember Dave Hiscock's famous quote about there being ' too many bunnies out there' and the backlash that got?
This is definitely a big part of it.
If you aren't a racer a bunch of 250's battling for the lead at 150kph is way less exciting than watching Chop and co playing follow the leader at 250.
Look at where the big motorsport crowds are internationally, F1, Indy, Nascar, Moto gp and WSB, etc.
A lot of the time these are pretty shit racing (Moto gp can be a real yawnfest at times) but they are fast, and loud.
How many People do you think Nascar would get if they raced corollas?
Forget trying to get crowds here, and just get the classes/racing right for the riders.
Drew for Prime Minister!
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if car racing and bike racing were together l never go to it unless l was racing ( cars are boring )
Yip,I do,It was a heat of the moment thing after he got held up badly through the infeild at Manfeild on his TZ350 by a guy on an H1 Kawasaki,Got blown out of proportion really,Who would have thought that could happen in roadracing ?
Racing with the cars for National points is not going to happen,Its been tried numerous times before and just doesn't work,If however the Superbike and 600 guys want to run with the cars as a demonstration,Thats fine,But be prepared to be treated like animals.
The last car bike meeting I went to had a truck raced right before the bikes, it was spitting and a truck came over the hill at pukekohe and started a burnout which turned into two or three rolling donuts over maybe a couple of hundred meters, looked pretty fucking cool with lots of shit flying off the tyres etc as the rain came in.
bikes went out straight after simply fucking lethal
Let's face it, the public want it delivered to their door and in their faces with close access. Street Racing always delivers. Apart from the obvious safety issues, getting off the circuits more often like Methven, Greymouth, Nelson etc still has huge potential for bringing our sport to the people. Look at F1 in Melbourne and the V8's at Adelaide for an example that it can be done safely,,,and yes I know it costs a bloody fortune to set up. Deliver it like Pizza,,and they will eat it up!!
"That's rooted!! What's next??"
Shoutout Events has been invited to showcase Supermoto racing at there combined Truck/Drift racing, we feel very lucky that the Canterbury car Club has been so supportive of our style of motorsport, we have made a 466 m dirty/clay section which includes jumps, berms and table top, just low one's so a young boy or girl can just roll over them or a rider can double them. We are looking forward to putting on a show to there spectators and grow our rider base and spectators. All this action will be on the "A" track at Powerbuilt Raceway Ruapuna Park
Check out more info on shoutout events on Face Book
I would like to see F1 and F2 racing at car events.
Possibly within the Supertourer series.
I love bike racing but really it is a minority sport in NZ.
If the top riders can get in front of bigger crowds and that would be great.
Only if the safety is not compromised.
I also enjoy car racing.
Have only had encouraging words from car drivers at combined trackdays.
Also having been to a lot of tracks around the world, I really like HD both as a rider and a spectator.
I view from turn 1, Turn2 and 3. Turn 4, and 5.
Great views, beats the hell out of Pukekohe.
I would rather see fewer classes at the Nationals.
Rather have more races for the 600 and SBK's.
Just my opinion as a rider and fan.
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