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    Out of the Blue (Aramoana Massacre movie)

    Just saw most of the movie on TV3, good movie giving us some insight into a national tragedy. I remember in 1990 when news of it broke, the live action we saw on tv was very surreal.

    Anyway, the reason I post is one of the last scenes in the movie. Now I don't know how true the movie was to real events, but I only hope the scene I talk of was. David Gray's hold-up is surrounded by AOS, they've peppered it with gunfire and thrown in the tear gas. David bursts out with a gun in his hand, is ordered to drop the weapon, then filled with holes by the AOS. They cuff and bound him as he writhes in pain and anger, then the officers there calmly group together and enjoy a cigarette while he dies.

    Cruel, hell yes. But if this child-killing mass murderer, who also shot and killed one of their own, was let go through the courts he would've been either locked up at a cost to us all until he dies, or given a cruisey number in a 'secure' mental health ward.

    In my opinion, even if it was a mental illness that caused him to snap, too bad, we don't need you here. Bye bye.

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    People like this murderer are surplus to our requirements in this society

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    When i lived up in Wellington i flatted with the cop that got shot in the foot,steven Vaughn.Scary stuff indeed.Strange it wasnt a part of the movie.
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    Clicked in after the netball. Sorta looked like the movie was shot with a handheld. Found it boring.............not much drama. Not too sure if that was deliberate or just poor movie making skills. But it's a story that needed to be told.

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    I was going to post a thread re this also. What a fantastic movie. The bastard wasnt going to stop until he was killed so the AOS handled it well. Also, did anybody notice that when the police officer was shot they used the actual police comms recording from the moment.

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    What I wanna know.. is.. WHY the fuck they didn't 'shoot to kill' the fucker in first place!!!!!????

    Any sad fuck who can kill children at fuckin near point blank range deserves to die with one between his fuckin eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One wicked movie.. I am still shell shocked by it.....

    I rode through Aramoana a year after it happened.. was quite surreal... saw the spot where his batch was.. gave me goosebumps for hours...
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    I hear that the minister of Police at the time actualy orderd his execution, J.B. one of the most positive things that he has done for New Zealand

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    Yeah saw this film some time ago, the Mrs got it out, I was really not keen on seeing a true NZ story, and thought the whole thing was going to be rubbish.
    But in fact, if as said, the rendition of events was close to the real time, then the story was truley touching for those that survived, and those that perished, apart from of course the criminal at the centre of it all.

    Even if some one had something go wrong up stairs, I feel no remorse for persons when they create the type of suffering endured by the victims, such as in this film.

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    Uh, when the movie was first released the Cops complained about the ending, It seems in the real event that after shooting him they (claim) to have performed CPR on him and tried to save his life.

    Though I'm of the opinion that if you shoot someone the least you should expect is to get shot yourself, it just makes so much sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    Uh, when the movie was first released the Cops complained about the ending, It seems in the real event that after shooting him they (claim) to have performed CPR on him and tried to save his life.

    Though I'm of the opinion that if you shoot someone the least you should expect is to get shot yourself, it just makes so much sense to me.
    As long as they did the decent thing and complained then fine,cops are human to which would leave me to assume that the cops that shot him felt the same revulsion of him as any normal human would.
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    Rent the DVD and watch the special features, very interesting (well some of it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    David Gray's hold-up is surrounded by AOS, they've peppered it with gunfire and thrown in the tear gas. David bursts out with a gun in his hand, is ordered to drop the weapon, then filled with holes by the AOS. They cuff and bound him as he writhes in pain and anger, then the officers there calmly group together and enjoy a cigarette while he dies.

    Cruel, hell yes. But if this child-killing mass murderer, who also shot and killed one of their own, was let go through the courts he would've been either locked up at a cost to us all until he dies, or given a cruisey number in a 'secure' mental health ward.

    In my opinion, even if it was a mental illness that caused him to snap, too bad, we don't need you here. Bye bye.
    i thought that scene was excellent.
    that maggot deserved no more respect as he coughed.
    i enjoyed the movie, and liked the understated "kiwi movie" fashion in which it played out.
    it was fucking hard to watch those little kids murdered.
    certainly shook me out of complacency for a few minutes and need to check on my sleeping little ones.
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    I was glad it dealt with the story in a 'here, this is what happened' manner rather than in a Hollywood dramatic style. You could tell the film-makers were out to tell a story, not win an award.
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    A well directed movie. I think the survivors were the ones who had Veto power on the final product. And to the directors credit, it was handled in a mature, honest manner.
    I was in Aus during this tragedy, and can only imagine how it affected the southern region.
    The AOS did almost exactly what I wish I had the skills to do.(I would hope Gray suffered a bit longer, f**king sack of shit).
    The local coppers were portrayed in a manner that I think would be close to the event. (nerves on edge, a bit scared, but doing the best they could).
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    The thing about Davud Grey was that he needed help, well before the shooting (opening scene when he thinks and visualised the cops are at his place when they weren't) It showed the human side of him when he had a tear and realised what he had done and it was real and not one of his haulinations when he saw the collection of the elephants... he compared to he collection of guns. Some thing made him snap...

    The special features on the DVD say the ending is pretty close.. (though the cigarette thing I doubt) He did come out shouting kill me, and fought the cops to the very end.

    It is recommended to rent the DVD and see the special feature.

    There is a good discussion on the IMDB message boards on various threads
    http://imdb.com/title/tt0839938/

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