Holy crap! A judge with some balls!!

**Dave-** · 30th November 2007, 11:07

Originally Posted by jrandom

I feel a bit sorry for the woman. She doesn't seem like the brightest of sparks. I doubt that the pregnancy and birth was maliciously planned in NZ; often, these sorts of things happen in life and cause complication that the parents would far rather have avoided.

Citizenship for the child, it was planned.

I know I would, look at china, who the hell would want to be born there? if NZ turned to shit I'd fully rock over to america with the missus then drag my ass wife and american son/daughter back to NZ

**Marmoot** · 30th November 2007, 11:13

Originally Posted by jrandom

Ahhh, quite right. Sorry. See Marmoot post, start beating anti-anti-racism dead horse, that's me...

Hang on....I think I still have it somewhere from your post long ago....

wait....here it is

**jrandom** · 30th November 2007, 11:17

Originally Posted by Dave-

Citizenship for the child, it was planned.

Ah well, what's the harm in that?

So long as she pays her bills, of course.

Glad to see that it looks like the courts have sorted that out, so all good. Hopefully it'll set a precedent and fewer folk will get away with doing it for free. I have no issues whatsoever with overseas folk coming and paying for their healthcare here during pregnancy and birth so that they can have NZ citizenship for their kid.

The child in question is unlikely to grow up to be a drain on our taxes, unlike the vast majority of sprogs spawned in South Auckland hospitals every week.

**Marmoot** · 30th November 2007, 11:23

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Good on the judge not letting them get off it easy. However, IMHO opinion his comment must be considered racism.

Clarifying my (first) post in this thread: It is not racism IF it is applied to everybody.

The question is whether the same standard is currently applied to everybody or not....

Ms Presley said she already did community work and had no idea how she would complete the 180 hours handed down by Judge Fred McElrea after her lawyer, Alex Witten-Hannah, successfully argued she could not pay a fine.

Ms Presley is the mother of Auckland internet queen Annette Presley, founder of internet provider Slingshot who appeared on the 2005 NBR Rich List with an estimated worth of $70 million.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectID=10384323

Defence lawyer Richard Bodle said the contracts for painting new homes were usually about $9000 and the Smiths had intended to work off the debt.
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Mr Smith was sentenced to 160 hours' community work and Mrs Smith to 120 hours.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10473228

Last week, Auckland bus driver Tu Tukino, 45, was sentenced to 40 hours of community work for failing to stop after his bus allegedly knocked down a pedestrian, Rongfa Jiang, on Dominion Rd in April. Mr Jiang later died in hospital.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/stor...ectid=10472174

I'd say, good on the judge to say that. But we need more judges with more balls and different colours too. Can't play good pool with only a yellow ball eh?