Bikers collide with Police car in Buller Gorge (1 December)

**scumdog** · 5th December 2007, 20:20

Originally Posted by Marmoot

makes me wonder how can a crash where 4 people died can get the facts found out faster than a crash where everyone in there lives.

Is it "waiting to find out all the available facts" or "waiting for the facts to be filtered as usual" when it involves the government apparatus?

Is it easier to get the facts out of non-police than from police? If so, would that mean 'different treatments'?

So much for 'everyone is equal in the eyes of law'...

Yeah well you have a point there - 'course it's a tad awkward to obtain a blokes statement when he's in a coma....

Whereas 4 dead bikers and two relatively unharmed camper-van occupants are a little easier to get statements from.

**98tls** · 5th December 2007, 20:28

Originally Posted by Marmoot

makes me wonder how can a crash where 4 people died can get the facts found out faster than a crash where everyone in there lives.

Is it "waiting to find out all the available facts" or "waiting for the facts to be filtered as usual" when it involves the government apparatus?

Is it easier to get the facts out of non-police than from police? If so, would that mean 'different treatments'?

So much for 'everyone is equal in the eyes of law'...

WTF.....be careful as you jack off as chances are there is a camera or 2 in your house already.

**Skyryder** · 5th December 2007, 20:38

Originally Posted by 98tls

Xactly......when the powers that be arrest someone with as they see it dubious evidence the tree huggers come out calling fair play yada yada but as soon as a cop looks like he may have made a fuckup its hang him on the spot.

Not when there is a motorcyclist that has been injured. We get a bit gung ho on this: it could have been one of us. There's some phsycology going on here. KB is a community of like minded souls and when a biker gets taken out we rally in support of said biker. In this case the biker cops on here have not done this. They appear to be in support of their collegue. Some here appear to be a bit pissed off about that.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 5th December 2007, 20:56

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Not when there is a motorcyclist that has been injured. We get a bit gung ho on this: it could have been one of us. There's some phsycology going on here. KB is a community of like minded souls and when a biker gets taken out we rally in support of said biker. In this case the biker cops on here have not done this. They appear to be in support of their collegue. Some here appear to be a bit pissed off about that.

Skyryder

Utter bullshit........have been riding for 30 odd years and have owned more than that bikes wise so consider myself a motorcyclist.KB is a website....simple.i am not supporting anyone and if you read my previous posts that will be obvious.Facts are its a shitty suituation for all concerned but as usual on here it brings out all the crystal ball owners.The cops a human being just as the rest of us are and if he fucked up he has done so as a human being.Not that hard really i wouldnt have thought.Amazing what people come out with from the sanctuary of there lounge.

**bell** · 5th December 2007, 21:12

Originally Posted by Marmoot

makes me wonder how can a crash where 4 people died can get the facts found out faster than a crash where everyone in there lives.

Is it "waiting to find out all the available facts" or "waiting for the facts to be filtered as usual" when it involves the government apparatus?

Is it easier to get the facts out of non-police than from police? If so, would that mean 'different treatments'?

So much for 'everyone is equal in the eyes of law'...

Your cynicism would appear to prevent you from viewing this objectively.

I challenge you to try.

**Pex Adams** · 5th December 2007, 21:13

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah well you have a point there - 'course it's a tad awkward to obtain a blokes statement when he's in a coma....

Whereas 4 dead bikers and two relatively unharmed camper-van occupants are a little easier to get statements from.

You also forgot to mention the 20 or so other witnesses, who watched a campervan doing cartwheels over a couple of bikes, on the wrong side of the road.

Nonetheless, to the guys in hospital, I hope the boys in blue pick up the tab for everything (including the cost to get you back on the road, with a couple of expensive italian stallions). You guys deserve a golden handshake! I wish you all the best in a fast and speedie recovery.

**Skyryder** · 5th December 2007, 21:18

Originally Posted by 98tls

Utter bullshit........have been riding for 30 odd years and have owned more than that bikes wise so consider myself a motorcyclist.KB is a website....simple.i am not supporting anyone and if you read my previous posts that will be obvious.Facts are its a shitty suituation for all concerned but as usual on here it brings out all the crystal ball owners.The cops a human being just as the rest of us are and if he fucked up he has done so as a human being.Not that hard really i wouldnt have thought.Amazing what people come out with from the sanctuary of there lounge.

30 years you are beginner compared to myself. Not that that is an issue but you raised it.

Well if I am so wrong why all the agro. Bottom line it has been reported that cop has claimed the biker was speeding. So shortly after the accident the cop blamed the biker. I've written lengthy piece on this. Perhaps you would like to read it and comment.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 5th December 2007, 21:29

Originally Posted by Skyryder

30 years you are beginner compared to myself. Not that that is an issue but you raised it.

Well if I am so wrong why all the agro. Bottom line it has been reported that cop has claimed the biker was speeding. So shortly after the accident the cop blamed the biker. I've written lengthy piece on this. Perhaps you would like to read it and comment.

Skyryder

No agro at all,will do and will do.

**Fatjim** · 5th December 2007, 21:31

Originally Posted by scumdog

fuckin hope I NEVER see YOU in a jury.

Thats precious, coming from the font of impartiality that is Scumdog.

Sorry to hear about your mates Mark, pass on our best wishes.

Thats was a nice Binelli too.

**98tls** · 5th December 2007, 21:45

Originally Posted by Fatjim

Thats precious, coming from the font of impartiality that is Scumdog.

Verging on pathetic........the guys a cop so that makes him impartial? Knowing the guy i can honestly say a more even keeled guy would be harder to find.

**mstriumph** · 5th December 2007, 23:02

ten characters

**mstriumph** · 5th December 2007, 23:09

Originally Posted by Kickaha

..............., it seems every other road user is fair game but motorcyclists protect their own even if they do fuck up

erm ......... like a large proportion of the police force, you mean?

**98tls** · 5th December 2007, 23:15

Originally Posted by mstriumph

erm ......... like a large proportion of the police force, you mean?

Do tell..........

**candor** · 5th December 2007, 23:53

Originally Posted by Marmoot

makes me wonder how can a crash where 4 people died can get the facts found out faster than a crash where everyone in there lives.....

So much for 'everyone is equal in the eyes of law'...

I don't think the FACTS are out faster - maybe never. It appears the driver may not have been breathalysed ??? given they weren't interviewed til an extended time after the crash. Perhaps not equal treatment for tourist who was not paying attention so strayed left... then apparently overcorrected.

Too many crashes associated with quota fixation (& increases) lately imo. Feel sorry for all involved. Except Treasury staff; should burn in hell.