Scooter boy
Assuming you are riding / driving under the speed limit, can you actually be charged for not being able to stop within the viewable distance ? (and in this case, assuming a speed of under 100kmh, clear day, dry road, how much would that stand up in court.)
I don't know anybody who can claim they always drive to a speed that allows them to stop in their viewable distance, except perhaps my father-in-law and my granny.
Come warm yourself by the fire
I hate to state the obvious here, but it has happened before, and it will happen again. No point it stopping time to try and fix it.Originally Posted by terbang
Just build the skill level, and the luck level to ensure it isnt you next is all i can offer. People learn. Communities/Organisations/Roads and Idiots do not. Ask Darwin.
You can lead a horse to water, just as you can state what was wrong with this crash. Just don't expect anything to change. Its not covering asses - its dealing with the problems that have a solution, rather than arguing to eternity over finger pointing rather than addressing the problem.
Nothing stops the world spinning.
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Hardcore Biker
I visited both today and passed on the well wishes from this site.
Brent is in chirpy spirits and positive about healing asap.
Marty was sleeping/out of it.
I don't want this picture to fuel more squabbling over who did what and who is at fault but I thought many would appreciate seeing what the road looked like when free of traffic. The driver would have been closer to the left cliff-face and therefore not have such an open view around the corner as you get from where this picture was taken.
The view is looking eastward. The riders were going westward i.e. towards the camera. The red circle is where the car would have pulled over to the left before commencing the 3-point turn. The square shows the impact point - there is light grey coloured sand on the 999's radiator spill.
What doesn't come through is that the apparent dense bush to the right of the road is actually the end of the terra firma - take one large step from the edge of the seal and you would be falling to the river below. The drop off is much more sudden than it looks.
Happiness is a means of travel, not a destination
It's a BRA. Not a fanny!!
I wouldn't even attempt to throw in a hand braky on that peice of road.. What was the cop thinking!!!
Scooter boy
I guess that picture say's it all......... what was he thinking!!! he clearly missed the safe turning area (where marks bike is parked) and in his hast caused all this pain and suffering to two guy's enjoying the freedom we all love.
We can only hope the lads make a full recovery an the police stand up and take ownership of this shocker!!! HP are meant to be highly trained/skilled.....not just parking wardens wandering our highways looking for there next victim.
Salted Pork
What's your fascination with ignore lists?
You have to be a really special sort of idiot to qualify for it as far as I'm concerned. You haven't qualified yet.
Forum whore
I'll take that as an apology for calling me a looney but it will take more than that for us to hold hands.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
Forum whore
Amen to that.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
"channellling the Pleideans"
If that is where I think it is, does that area where the photo was taken become a 4wd track down to a terrace? If it does, thats the getin for a great paddling section.
If it IS where I think it is, the only possible safe place to turn around is in that pulloff where the camera person is standing. From memory the river is relatively placid at that point, the first rapid is downriver a ways.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
"channellling the Pleideans"
now the foreplay is over, why not just get a room?I'll take that as an apology for calling me a looney but it will take more than that for us to hold hands.
Skyryder
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Forum whore
With bars and handcuffs..now the foreplay is over, why not just get a room?........................he wishes.
Skyryrder.
Free Scott Watson.
Salted Pork
It would probably be different if we met face to face, even me & Lou can talk to each other in person without poking each other in the eye since we've met.I'll take that as an apology for calling me a looney but it will take more than that for us to hold hands.
Skyryder
Wherever you go, there you are
Oh no lets wait for the report before speculating on the root cause here. You can't trust those camera lenses, it could be straighter than it looks.
If you love it, let it go. If it comes back to you, you've just high-sided!
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Fair weather rider
Not really. Pictures from the impact site would give a much better idea of the views and distances the bikers and the officer had. Even a picture taken from where the bike is parked wouldnt look as bad.
Hardcore Biker
On Sumday 9 December ther was a serious accident in the Buller Gorge.
A police office did a U turn to chase a speeding biker. the suggestion from newspaaper reports is that when he started his turn the road was clear, but not for long. Before he could complete the turn two bikes t-boned him. Both Bikers were seriously injured.
The front page of Tuesday day mornings Hearld was full of a similar report of on incident on State Highway 2.
Another Police U turn in front of a Biker.
There has been some bebate on the Ulysses forum about these matters. I am enquiring of the wider Biker community to see if anyone knows or thinks they have answers to the following questions?
1 Does anyone know how the unfortunate riders are progressing? The best news we could all have is that they are well on the road to recovery.
2 We know that there will be a police enquiry and investigation into both accidents, but has anyone heard or have any idea who was at fault?
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