Legality of cleaning up rear of bike.

[pzkpfw]

Hi,

(Yes, I did try searching - happy to be sent abuse as long as it includes a link...)

I'm starting to think about getting one of those number plate bracket things so I can rip the huge "shovel" off the back of my (2005) Z750S.

I've got two questions:

1. Is it technically "legal"? I wonder if the stock mud-guard is considered "original equipment" that shouldn't be removed.

2. Are those rear-lights that include the indicaters in them "legal"? They do look tidy - but they don't seem much like the "original" stick-out-on-stalks indicators bikes come with.

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If you are still reading, I've got more:

3. Should I do this considering I don't have a hugger (yet)?

4. Will I really get crap all over my back?

5. Car drivers are all blind, I know, but are those integrated indicators as "safe" as normal ones?
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Cheers,


Legal schmeagle? Yes, I'm a wus.

[98tls]

Yes its legal and yes you will get shit all over your back when riding in the rain.heres mine with an aftermarket undertray/lights.Hugger wont stop water flicking up.I had a intergrated light/indicator setup and wasnt happy with the brightness of indicators so got rid of.Other thing you have to think of is a number plate light,easy to make or buy an led one,for a warrant you also need a reflector,it only has to be small,in my case i bought one for a trail bike and cut it in 1/2.

[sunhuntin]

i *think* reflective tape will suffice for a reflector? i think, not 100%. if so, you could buy a roll and use some of the rest in unobtrusive places on the sides of the bike, so you light up from the side as well.

[bell]

Hi,

(Yes, I did try searching - happy to be sent abuse as long as it includes a link...)

I'm starting to think about getting one of those number plate bracket things so I can rip the huge "shovel" off the back of my (2005) Z750S.

I've got two questions:

1. Is it technically "legal"? I wonder if the stock mud-guard is considered "original equipment" that shouldn't be removed.

2. Are those rear-lights that include the indicaters in them "legal"? They do look tidy - but they don't seem much like the "original" stick-out-on-stalks indicators bikes come with.

(If you are still reading, I've got more:

3. Should I do this considering I don't have a hugger (yet)?

4. Will I really get crap all over my back?

5. Car drivers are all blind, I know, but are those integrated indicators as "safe" as normal ones?)
Cheers,

Legal schmeagle? Yes, I'm a wus.

I too, have looked at the arse end of my Z750 and thought it could do with a nip and tuck.

I bought a tail tidy bracket from some bloke on TM. I was 99% sure that his assurances that it would be a simple job and not require any extra parts were correct.

How wrong that was!

It took me half an hour (ok, more like 2 hrs) to pull everything off the back end and then another hour+ to realise that it was never going to work with the OEM indicators and number plate light. But gee it was fun. NOT!

I'll dredge up a link to the item I bought and PM it to you.

Have you got the .pdf version of the workshop service manual? If not I can get you a link. It's mighty handy when you've got 96 pieces of your bike on the floor of the shed and you'd like them to go back in reasonably correct places!

Do not attempt this procedure unless you have beer readily at hand either.

Re: getting dirt/water up your back. That would be most true I imagine. My wife ends up with crap all over her legs and back when we ride in the wet. And that's with the No. 3 OEM Shovel on. I imagine the situation would be quite a bit worse with a slim number under there.

[Mom]

Re: getting dirt/water up your back. That would be most true I imagine. My wife ends up with crap all over her legs and back when we ride in the wet. And that's with the No. 3 OEM Shovel on. I imagine the situation would be quite a bit worse with a slim number under there.

Something real biker about a stripe up your back.........LOL I managed to get one a few years ago riding on some unsealed road in the rain on a GN no less

[pzkpfw]

Thanks everyone for replies so far.

Would be VERY interested in this, too:

Have you got the .pdf version of the workshop service manual? If not I can get you a link.

Even if not Z750S - should be similar.

Cheers,

[bell]

http://www.z1000.riderdestination.co...album=34&pos=2

Hopefully you've been here as well.

Have spent 10 mins trying to find the tail tidy I bought without success sorry. It was a generic/universal fitting. Powdercoated and looked great...just didn't fit.

I'd recommend buying something local so that you can return it easily or place the actual item onto the bike before you buy it. To be sure, to be sure, to be sure...

Let us know how you get on.

[NinjaBoy]

Yes its legal and yes you will get shit all over your back when riding in the rain.heres mine with an aftermarket undertray/lights.Hugger wont stop water flicking up.I had a intergrated light/indicator setup and wasnt happy with the brightness of indicators so got rid of.Other thing you have to think of is a number plate light,easy to make or buy an led one,for a warrant you also need a reflector,it only has to be small,in my case i bought one for a trail bike and cut it in 1/2.

Yep it's the number plate light and reflector you need to remember for your warrant. Red tape is not enough... depending on how pedantic they are you need a reflector with the NZS markings. The led number plate light seems to get passed though.

[saltydog]

i *think* reflective tape will suffice for a reflector? i think, not 100%.

yep, no worries, I have a roll espicially for warrant time. Stick on and peel off.

[pzkpfw]

Hopefully you've been here as well.

...yep, thanks, but can't remember if I registered there. (Added: checked, I did.)

Also have been here: http://www.riderforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=33

Cheers,

[skidMark]

Yes its legal and yes you will get shit all over your back when riding in the rain.heres mine with an aftermarket undertray/lights.Hugger wont stop water flicking up.I had a intergrated light/indicator setup and wasnt happy with the brightness of indicators so got rid of.Other thing you have to think of is a number plate light,easy to make or buy an led one,for a warrant you also need a reflector,it only has to be small,in my case i bought one for a trail bike and cut it in 1/2.

you bastard....

you didn't censor that porn! drooooooooooolyz

[stevedee]

This is what I bought about 3 years ago and it fitted pefectly, uses the original indicators but brings them in a few inches to the bod of the bike.

http://www.hamicad.co.uk/ZX6R.html

It fits the Z750 exact, looks professional, and is finished professionally. 3 years on, no rust, nothing has fallen off, etc.

spd:-)

[pzkpfw]

Yep; looks good.

I spent the evening measuring all the bits (reflectors, plate, lights, reg/lic and wof) and drawing pictures.

Was thinking of getting some aluminium sheet bent up - but I'm probably mad not to just buy something like that.

I just ordered some motorvationusa sliders, so maybe this is the start of a long downhill slope of me sending my money away over the internet...



(Why the frack is a WOF not only different to a license - but also made to be viewed both sides?! Bloody civil servants.)


P.S. added a 2005 Z750S (ZR750-K1) Service Manual to the manuals thread.

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Didn't want to bump the thread so adding here...

Yesterday I ripped everything off the back of the bike. Bit of a mission getting the rear fairing off with the pack rack in place, but I'd only recently lock-tighted a new bolt on the foot peg bracket (a bolt had fallen out!) so kind of wanted to leave it alone. Only reason the fairing had to come off was so I could unplug the indicators and plate light. Stupid design; everything else required to unbolt the spade was available when the seat was taken off.

First spent 5 minutes wondering why I couldn't get the seat off before I remembered the "hidden" seat lock position.

I was trying the helmet lock.

Measured some more, and made templates of the odd shaped holes for the stock indicators and the plate light. Then spent more time surfing for kits.

Got everything back on the bike, even put a bracket back in the right place that someone at Motorad had got wrong when they installed the pack rack. (Not hassling them, I don't even know what that bracket does.)

Today I'll maybe have a pootle around to see what kind of brackets I can find on shelves. (Al at Bunnings etc?)


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