drifting question

[Paul in NZ]

Nor here....

What colour are your glasses Tiggerz? They certainly aint anything I can imagine...

Nah! I've got a pair of those 'special' glasses too...

I suggest you borrow mine Tiggerz and read your own posts... You would be amazed what those glasses translate that too... Funnily enough, I don't seem to be alone in my opinion.

I didn't 'grow up' in the 60's. (some people would claim I still have not managed that yet). Simple maths will show you when I was old enough to get my license. Early 70's.

I never claimed I was better than anyone. Only that I gave some actual examples of my sliding experience ( I also won the only 'lets see how far you can lock up your front wheel coming down Dyers Pass road competition'. The survivors decided not to make it an annual event and the paint on my Triumphs drum brake caught fire).

In fact I gave up grasstrack because I was never going to be good enough to be in the hunt and frankly I freakin' near wet myself with fear on the only time I rode a speedway bike (that wall seemed awful close)

The message I was trying to get across was I'm OLD (ie I survived that) and am humbly suggesting, based on the experiences described, that doing what you described in your first post is going to end badly!

And before you ask. YES I have ridden CBR600 a VTR and a Blackbird as fast as I could at manfield. People have walked around faster, I'm no racer!

If you want to build your skills for stunting, do a bit of trials, scrambles etc and do proper stunting. Doing it in carparks and public roads is daft!

Paul N

ps. If you drop the attitude and read the posts without putting on your angst glasses you will see thus far people have been quite nice (appart from me but I'm repeat arsehole and a wanker)

[James Deuce]

You know - I had to take a kid to hospital last year because his skateboard hit a small stone and he fell off and busted his arm in two places - he was wearing all the kit.

Some of you guys must be sniffing glue or something - because some of your statements bear no resemblance to reality.

So far I have heard that.

Sand/grass/race track is softer than road
You will not get injured riding a dirt bike on gravel roads (even if you go fast)
You will always get run over by a car if you dont drive perfectly
You will always go 100kph on a road bike but only 40kph on a dirt bike -even if they are the same capacity.
Everyone will get injured if they try something different.
People who have been riding in the 60s are always better than those who were riding in the 70s 80s or 90s - even if the machinery is totally different and they have never been on a modern machine.
People who go fast on the race track are also fast on the road
People who can ride on the road well will be experts on the race track.
You must be going extremely fast to perform any form of trick on a motorcycle.

I mean - please actually just take a look at what you are saying and think about reality. Some of you are just parroting old wives tales at best.

What an astonishingly stupid person.

I've played nice so far but if you are heading down this path I ain't playing no more.

Have fun in your perfectly safe, cosy little environment where bad things don't happen because I'm invincible and immortal.

[sanchez]

Try not to listen to Tiggerz too much, if you want to read an almost complete contradiction of what he's posting here (from tiggerz himself) check

http://forums.overclockers.co.nz/sho...threadid=15910

[k14]

Try not to listen to Tiggerz too much, if you want to read an almost complete contradiction of what he's posting here (from tiggerz himself) check

http://forums.overclockers.co.nz/sho...threadid=15910

Very good point there sanchez. If the shoe fits....

[Kwaka-Kid]

For those of you who cant be botherd clicking the link: This was said after some guy said he drifts his car around the road or some junky tin-top rice racer stuff like that.

Fookwit (and I am being polite with you here). I have a personal vendetta out for tin box drivers that show skills required of entry to the darwin awards. You are currently displaying them.

If you actually believe what you posted you should be banned from driving.

Take it to a track please.

Dont just type it.
Read it.
Understand it.

No offence dude but your personalities on these 2 diff boards are complete opposites of eachother. Whatever trouble you are having with your two different states of mind thingy i reckon itd help if you didnt try to rub the majority of the well respected members here the wrong way.

Have a good one dude.

[Blakamin]

No offence dude but your personalities on these 2 diff boards are complete opposites of eachother.

HAHAHA... what a tossa

he could get medication for that KK!

[TwoSeven]

For those of you who cant be botherd clicking the link: This was said after some guy said he drifts his car around the road or some junky tin-top rice racer stuff like that.


Dont just type it.
Read it.
Understand it.

No offence dude but your personalities on these 2 diff boards are complete opposites of eachother. Whatever trouble you are having with your two different states of mind thingy i reckon itd help if you didnt try to rub the majority of the well respected members here the wrong way.

Have a good one dude.

This is my original post.

Ok, just having a conversation with someone who is a MXr about drifting (front and rear). I can kind of do it to the rear on the 250 - but its more uncontrolled due to cold tires rather than on the 600 where it was technique.

Anyone out there have a handle on a good way to get more control

Having never ridden speedway I'm not sure how they do it, but it seems to be a mix of lean angle and throttle control

Kwaka-Kid Can you point out the post I made in this thread and the one you linked to where I contradict myself. The entire post please - in context.


I'll stick with what i've said so far - in both forums.

[jrandom]

Kwaka-Kid Can you point out the post I made in this thread and the one you linked to where I contradict mysel.

Oooh, can I do this one? Please?

Ahem.

I'll type it slowly, so as to be more easily understood.

You see, earlier in this thread, right, you went on about bike-stunting fun on the road. Public roads, and all that? Remember?

And then, on a forum for spotty 13-year-old computer owners and spotty 16-year-old Japanese car owners, you made an excursion to the moral high ground and bagged some feckless youth for claiming that he stunted in his *car* on public roads.

Fortunately, I suspect you still have a teensy-tiny bit of salvagable online respectibility, should you want to continue participating on *this* forum without the general populace thinking of you as a peurile, self-inflated moron. But you should probably start making sensible posts, and stop insulting people. Get the ego under control, etc.

I always wonder how much this sort of nonsense relates to people's real natures. Are you an up-himself git in real life, too, or do you just have a big pair of Internet Balls, coupled with very little Internet Brain?

[Blakamin]

Oooh, can I do this one? Please?

Ahem.

I'll type it slowly, so as to be more easily understood.

[TwoSeven]

Oooh, can I do this one? Please?

Ahem.

I'll type it slowly, so as to be more easily understood.

You see, earlier in this thread, right, you went on about bike-stunting fun on the road. Public roads, and all that? Remember?

Can you quote me please - in context.

[James Deuce]

Hang - Just have to go and get a fresh coffee.

[jrandom]

Can you quote me please - in context.

Oh, fuggoff. The thread is the context. Read it again, then read my post *really quickly* before the preceding stuff fades out of your head.

I can't be arsed prolonging any boring arguments today.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Just to prolong it, Here you go Tiggerz, with context.

Theres a number of quotes which I reckon got the wind up people. They are from a number of different posts, with some more relevant parts highlighted

Out of interest I grew up racin road bikes on wet grass with my mates - so not afraid of moving a bike around. Havnt binned a bike in over a decade apart from parking on some long grass that turned out to be a ditch and removing the paddock stand without putting the side stand down and ye olde disc lock issue. So you can assume that I have a fair idea on how to ride safely.


On the 250 I have a corner I like thats out of the way from everything. With the dragons on it was a matter of setting the throttle and banging the bike on its side - at a certain point round the corner the tire would slip then grip if I got the lean angle right. You could make it go a bit further if you caught it with the throttle and gave it a bit more gas, but would lose it as the bike stood up on the exit - but most often its just a slip and grip. It just plain dont have enough go juice to do more than that.


Not much luck with the front end on the 250 and i've tried a few different ideas - really all I can do it get it to skip in a straight line if I really wail on the brakes - with the dunlops if I turn too quick it just wants to tuck on me which is off putting at best. On my old cibby600 you could just square the corner right off and turn hard and if you got it right the front would skip a bit as it washed off the speed. But for the life of me I cant remember exactly the sequence for doing it.

(In these last two you admit to trying to "drift" on public roads as far as I can see - PT)

The chaps down at the skateboard parks on their pushbikes are more likely to get hurt than I am (and I was watching some kid do some pretty mean jumps the other week - just with a plastic hat and elbow guards).

Oh and the real kicker?

and they're where??? ooohhh skateboard park

why dont you practice on a race track???

I would - but its fookin expensive and a car park and quiet road are free.

[TwoSeven]

So apart from quoting me out of context - you have managed to bold parts that indicate I'm a safe rider, take the bike to safe places to practice and sometimes watch the skateboarders at the local park (you see when you quote out of context it can become double edged).

ok so failing to quote me, link accusations to facts or do anything that a normal person would do the technique is to resort to mis-quoting out of context to create some of the old proverbial

I believe there is one state in the psychological step of an internet retard left to be achieved and and so far only one person has demonstrated the ability to achieve it - however this state is the usual domain of the 8 year old so I am expecting it to be a bit of effort for some of the members here.

Its usually about this stage that some of the more intelligent people will realise that the've made the rather stupid mistake of trying to ego bash someone and have been milked for all their worth.

although there were a few good opinions made by people (which are always worth reading and making a note of) - if not on the subject of the original post - I do listen and take note - just not agree. The rest of the posts were just amusement as far as I am concerned

[Blakamin]

I believe there is one state in the psychological step of an internet retard left to be achieved and and so far only one person has demonstrated the ability to achieve it - however this state is the usual domain of the 8 year old so I am expecting it to be a bit of effort for some of the members here.

which bit did I leave out???????????? :disapint: