drifting question

[TwoSeven]

Ok, just having a conversation with someone who is a MXr about drifting (front and rear). I can kind of do it to the rear on the 250 - but its more uncontrolled due to cold tires rather than on the 600 where it was technique.

Anyone out there have a handle on a good way to get more control

Having never ridden speedway I'm not sure how they do it, but it seems to be a mix of lean angle and throttle control.

[Blakamin]

Ok, just having a conversation with someone who is a MXr about drifting (front and rear). I can kind of do it to the rear on the 250 - but its more uncontrolled due to cold tires rather than on the 600 where it was technique.

Anyone out there have a handle on a good way to get more control

Having never ridden speedway I'm not sure how they do it, but it seems to be a mix of lean angle and throttle control.

Gary McCoy reckons its flat out on the throttle and then roll off to get the traction back.... wouldnt believe him tho... he's an Aussie with heaps of pins in his body

[vifferman]

'Drifting' is for wankers. Motorcyclists slide, not drift their bikes. And it tends to be the rear, rather than the front, as it's very easy to progress into a lowside when the front has exceeded the limits of traction...

You may also call it 'flat-track', although that's a bit Murkn.
On the WSB / MotoGP bikes, a lot of it's down to power, so it's a controlled power-slide. The guys that have come from 'flat-tracking' or other dirt-bike riding, or who have ridden supermotards tend to do it more often, as it's de rigeur for those sports. Interestingly, Colin Edwards said that riding supermotards mid-season completely stuffed up his MotoGP riding, as the two styles were so different, from a weight-distribution point of view.

[Paul in NZ]

Look, at risk of being an even bigger arsehole than I am already... AND Freely admitting I'm an unfashionable old wanker that rides a funny old motorbike with a ditchpump for an engine that does not even make enough power to overcome the bicycle wheels it is equiped with !

BUT

If you are seriously suggesting that you indulge in regular rear wheel sliding on the road on a 600 regularly, AND you want to start sliding the front as well.. I suggest several options.

1. Book a space in out patients now because you are going to need it! - Soon!

2. Please let us sponsor you into MotoGP because you make that Rossi poofta look like the semi talented simian featured missing link he really is...

3. Buy some decent tyres because yours are either stuffed or you have the pressures all wrong.

4. Fix your suspension 'cos you have confused a good wallow with a slide.

5. I've got NO idea what i'm talking about...

Mate. If you are either doing this on the street already or planning it. It take my hat of to you! You are a braver man than I!

Paul N

[Posh Tourer :P]

Tiggerz, buy a bike with touring tyres.... then you can get movement easier.... I've had some beautiful slow 2 wheel drifts (used in a sense of a slow slide) on the beemer on a dry road, but I wouldnt like to get into a slide... Rear is ok sometimes, but front on the road, no way ...

Get a dirt bike and ride dirt/gravel to get that "control"..... That way you dont need to buy a space at the local A and E/outpatients ward, just take some arnica and band-aids...

[enigma51]

Just buy a pair of dunlop 207's and you will be sliding drifting what ever you want to call it very soon.

[Blakamin]

3. Buy some decent tyres because yours are either stuffed or you have the pressures all wrong.

Paul N

And here I was about to suggest cheaper ones!....
Try and get some tyre that has been sitting in the sun for 40 years.. shame shiko wasnt around waaay back then... they would be like steel now, and we all know how steel on ashphalt likes to grip!

which brings me to the other way... get up heaps of speed and lowside.... bike will drift for ages... (might be a bugga to turn tho)

[vifferman]

All righty, then!

I'm warmed to this topic now. From personal experience, I *know* how to get this drifting/clowning/sliding/mentalling going.

1. Get a can of spray-on engine degreaser, and some used engine oil, chainlube, or other DinosaurSpooge-BasedCrud.
2. If your bike wheels are clean, apply some of the aforementioned DS-BC to the rims, tyres, or whatever. If you're a GrubbyLittlePersonWithANeglectedBike, your're OK, as they'll already been liberally encrusted with DS-BC, insect guts, possum remains, cowshit and other goodies.
3. Liberally spray the rims, tyres, your underarms, the seat cover, the cat, the neighbour's kids, and anything else that gets in the way, with the engine degreaser.
4. Go and have a beer. And some mind-altering drugs. And some pain-killers for the fun ahead...
5. Hose the rims, the tyres, your head, the seat cover, the cat, the neighbour's kids, your head, the road, the guy passing in the street. But not too much. Water is very dangerous, you know.
6. Get your motor running, head out on the highway, looking for adventure, and whatever comes my way....
7. Repeat steps 1 through 6, until you've mastered two wheel drifts/slides/stunt-o-rama, or you're hospitalised, locked up, or a gibbering wreck. Or your bike's a smouldering mouldering wreck.
   Or summat.
   Or not.
8. Report back to us.

Now I know this method is guaranteed to induce slides of the exciting, insane, anus-clenching, knuckle-whitening variety, as I've tried it myself. Most exciting, it were.

[SPORK]

And I thought you were a responsible, caring, person FS! Spraying the cat, unforgivable! How dare you be so cruel to those that love you. I think I will go to the SPCA in my spare lunch break to buy some cats to chuck at you, crazy cat lady style.

How can you sleep at night?!

[vifferman]

And I thought you were a responsible, caring, person FS! Spraying the cat, unforgivable! How dare you be so cruel to those that love you. I think I will go to the SPCA in my spare lunch break to buy some cats to chuck at you, crazy cat lady style.

How can you sleep at night?!

Cats don't love anyone. At best, it's Cupboard Love. And they're quite prepared to Bite The Hand What Feeds Em.
CatsREvil.

Hate cats.
CatsREvil.

If a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun.

[Paul in NZ]

I think I will go to the SPCA in my spare lunch break to buy some cats to chuck at you, crazy cat lady style.

How can you sleep at night?!

Ah! Another Simpsons fan I see!

[rodgerd]

If you are seriously suggesting that you indulge in regular rear wheel sliding on the road on a 600 regularly, AND you want to start sliding the front as well.. I suggest several options.

And we wonder why our ACC premiums are so high...

[vifferman]

And we wonder why our ACC premiums are so high...

No we don't.
We know it's because the bureaucrats have decided it's 'user pays', and they're trying to balance the expenditure for motorcycle-related ACC claims, with the premiums levied on the group who it's easiest to take it from. Regardless of fault, fairness, etc.




Was that a rhetorical question?

[Posh Tourer :P]

Water is very dangerous, you know.

Yah - correlated with almost all mass-murderers, and implicated in a large proportion of drownings...

[White trash]

Cycosis rides a road 600 faster than anyone I've ever met and I've never once heard him wanking on about drifting or even sliding for that matter.

Sure we've all had a couple of slides from time to time and by the grace of god managed to escape unscathed.

Then you feel like a bit of a hero and tell your mates how fucken cool you are at the pub later on. Everyone of them nodding in aggreement.

Back to real riding, who amongst us, on their road bike, can consistantly get through any corner they come across, meet the apex, then just think "I'll gas it up and wheelspin/slide out of this corner with a bit of opposite lock".

You can do that? At any speed/any time you feel like it? On a roadbike? You're my hero and you should be challenging our mates Stroud and Bernard.

For the record, I can "drift" my mini moto on wet grass that's been cut shorter than 1/2 inch.