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    Personal protection - (Was part of Africa on a GN250)

    Quote Originally Posted by Joni View Post
    It would be a trip of a life time... he said it was hard, but a stunner!
    I bet.

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    The choices du jour, a 990 and a 686:



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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    The choices du jour, a 990 and a 686:


    I think you'll find that shooting Africans is illegal these days. If not, it is definitely frowned upon. Putting this technicality aside, you might find a glock much more accurate. Accuracy with a revolver is best achieved when the muzzle is in the victim to be's mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I think you'll find that shooting Africans is illegal these days. If not, it is definitely frowned upon.
    I seem to remember reading somewhere that at least 15 African nations are currently in some kind of civil war, so as long as you shoot the right africans you'll be fine.
    Ie; shoot rebels in government held areas and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Putting this technicality aside, you might find a glock much more accurate. Accuracy with a revolver is best achieved when the muzzle is in the victim to be's mouth.
    Au contraire, sir.

    Have you done much pistol shooting? An inch-sized grouping off the bench at 25 yards is quite achievable with most quality 6" revolvers, but a Glock won't do anything like that straight out of the box.

    If the subject interests you, pop into Sportways Gunshed in Mt Eden sometime and have a chat with Mike, who won the NZ Service Pistol Nationals in 2006 with a Ruger GP100.

    Also, while a Glock is undoubtedly the best choice in terms of automatic pistol reliability, the good old double-action revolver simply cannot be beaten for "goes bang every time" confidence in harsh conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Au contraire, sir.

    Have you done much pistol shooting? An inch-sized grouping off the bench at 25 yards is quite achievable with most quality 6" revolvers, but a Glock won't do anything like that straight out of the box.

    If the subject interests you, pop into Sportways Gunshed in Mt Eden sometime and have a chat with Mike, who won the NZ Service Pistol Nationals in 2006 with a Ruger GP100.

    Also, while a Glock is undoubtedly the best choice in terms of automatic pistol reliability, the good old double-action revolver simply cannot be beaten for "goes bang every time" confidence in harsh conditions.
    Yes, a lot in a previous life and recently at Brookby. Actually looking at taking it up again.

    In the context of shooting moving African's, (they're pretty quick on their feet if you look at Olympic records) I would feel more confident with a glock than a revolver. However, tied to a post at 25 yards, a rock would do to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Yes, a lot in a previous life and recently at Brookby. Actually looking at taking it up again.
    I've had to put my plans of becoming a competitive shooter on hold due to generally crazy levels of shit going on this year and next, but do keep in touch if you manage to get things off the ground vis-a-vis pistol shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    In the context of shooting moving African's, (they're pretty quick on their feet if you look at Olympic records) I would feel more confident with a glock than a revolver.
    Yes, a G17 with a 30-round mag would certainly be the way to go in a target-rich environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    I've had to put my plans of becoming a competitive shooter on hold due to generally crazy levels of shit going on this year .

    Sounds as though a gun would help solve this actually!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy View Post
    Sounds as though a gun would help solve this actually!
    I have plenty of guns.

    Just not pistols, and I don't shoot competitively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I think you'll find that shooting Africans is illegal these days. If not, it is definitely frowned upon. Putting this technicality aside, you might find a glock much more accurate. Accuracy with a revolver is best achieved when the muzzle is in the victim to be's mouth.

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    , (they're pretty quick on their feet if you look at Olympic records)

    They are quick allright....
    think they spend a lot of there time running away from lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    with a Ruger GP100.
    I thought suzuki made that.
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    Personally Id go for the .45 Colt 1911, mainly because its bloody good accuracy wise and stopping power is pretty decent, as well as being one of the most reliable semi autos around. 9mm is a waste of time imho.
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    Wheel guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0arbreaka View Post
    Personally Id go for the .45 Colt 1911...
    Puh-lease. No way is any 1911 as reliable as a wheelgun or a Glock.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0arbreaka View Post
    9mm is a waste of time imho.
    You won't mind if I shoot you with one then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0arbreaka View Post
    Personally Id go for the .45 Colt 1911, mainly because its bloody good accuracy wise and stopping power is pretty decent, as well as being one of the most reliable semi autos around. 9mm is a waste of time imho.
    Yehaaaaa! The ol' .45ACP vs 9mm FAWOMFT!

    Hasn't quite been around as long as the the Catholic vs Protestant one but is older than the Linux vs Windoze debate.

    How about we both get given a strict budget for ammo and we'll see who's more accurate in 6 months, eh? A nine-mil in the centre of the chest is far more effective than a .45 in the shoulder or the forearm...

    If you want to use anything that costs more to feed than a nine mil, start with a nine mil, burn up shit-loads of cheap ammo until you're accurate and then get the other weapon and but a couple of hundred rounds through it - you'd already be accurate and all you'd have to do is get the feel for the new weapon, it'd cost you less than a few thousand rounds of the calibre of your choice - hardly sounds like a nine mil is a "waste of time" to me.

    Unless, of course, you're one of those "The .45ACP/.357Mag/.44Mag/.454 Casull/.50AE/whatever is a magic wand and will kill a person if they look at it" idiots who doesn't believe that bullet placement has any bearing on the matter.
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