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**Grahameeboy** · 19th December 2007, 13:23

Originally Posted by Jim2

I haven't got time for luxuries.

Life is not a luxury Sir Jim..........nor is that Ducati 998s I looked at yesterday.....it is an essential too

**onearmedbandit** · 19th December 2007, 13:42

Isn't this the jokes and humour section of the forum?

**MSTRS:Me** · 19th December 2007, 13:45

...your point being....?

**Grahameeboy** · 19th December 2007, 13:52

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Isn't this the jokes and humour section of the forum?

What you mean that Mothers should not be respected for what they do.......

**jrandom** · 19th December 2007, 14:10

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

that Ducati 998s I looked at yesterday.....it is an essential too

I'm glad to see that my subtle ongoing influence is bearing fruit.

**jrandom** · 19th December 2007, 14:17

OK, since James Deuce gets to rant, I'll stick me oar in too.

As an estranged father, it annoys me to see dads who don't live with their kids stigmatised as "abandoners" and "non-providers".

My kids cost me plenty of cash, both in the form of regular child support payments and in the various 'emergencies' that Dad's income is required to cover.

I regularly burn gallons of gas and hours of time charging around Auckland picking them up and dropping them off, and it's time with me that they look forward to on the weekends.

It's not always a lack of love for his children that drives a man away from the family home.

**Number One** · 19th December 2007, 14:30

Originally Posted by jrandom

OK, since James Deuce gets to rant, I'll stick me oar in too.

As an estranged father, it annoys me to see dads who don't live with their kids stigmatised as "abandoners" and "non-providers".

Given what you've said about how you are still in the picture and being supportive and loving and involved I don't see that that qualifies you as estranged......

**Grahameeboy** · 19th December 2007, 14:35

+1

Yep when the Father is the main breadwinner and has to pay loads of dosh in child support, like you Sir, who cannot give up or take a drop in salary which would free up more time to have custody, you don't have many choices.

Even having equal shared custody would simply reduce the payments to the ex but then the savings would be needed for your half etc etc so the job still creates a pain.

What people forget is that the Father has made a huge sacrifice by ensuring that the kids get what they need v's quality time. The latter is important, however, kids need a provider too.

For me I have sacrificed a lot financially to have shared custody although my ex was the buck earner so for me it was not such a hard route and I don't have to pay her support either....hopefully I have the right balance for me and Nats

**Grahameeboy** · 19th December 2007, 14:36

Originally Posted by Number One

Given what you've said about how you are still in the picture and being supportive and loving and involved I don't see that that qualifies you as estranged......

Take the e off and you will be close to it......I know he lives with me!!

**Number One** · 19th December 2007, 14:39

Ha ha!

**MisterD** · 19th December 2007, 16:39

Originally Posted by Jim2

No, my opinion and help isn't wanted. It's a cultural and social issue now. No poem, however lovely is going to make me feel better about the fact that a midwife would rather my wife and child had died than have to accept that my assessment of her physical condition was correct.

Fuck that is shocking. I thought my experiences with my wife's post-caesar complications were bad, but your story leaves me utterly speechless.

It took me accusing some abdominal specialist consultant-wallah of "un-scientific thinking bordering on guesswork" to properly get their attention...it's another subject, I know but whatever happened to that implict trust we used to have in doctors?

**Number One** · 11th May 2008, 08:39

BUMP!

Hope you all get breakie in bed and your kids and partners treat you nice today.

Being a mum is definitely the hardest job I have ever had and though we should thank our mums and let them know how special they are everyday today is a day to make a proper fuss of them and thank them for all their hard work and unconditional love.

Have a great day mums

Lotsa love Number One