Ciggie butts

[Squid]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time..... Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.

You've done it twice since then?

Pray tell?

I'm guessing either returning butts to their owners via the window or been pissing into courier vans. Though the latter does sound like it could almost become a extreme sport....

[sinfull]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time. I've had another one that i'm not sure how to counter yet though. Had a courier van driver tip half a cup of presumably cold, or bad coffee out his window 2 meters in front of me. Happened to miss me, but i'm not sure how I would have retaliated if it had hit me. Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.

With a bit of practise anything is possible mate !

[Mikkel]

I would have thought in these tree-hugging, save-the-world times that the youth of today would be very anal against littering.

I don't understand it.

Yes, that is very difficult to understand.

Careful with that.....where does it stop? Logically then, talking to passengers, eating, changing CD's/radio stations etc., and anything else that could possibly distract the driver should also be banned!
Personally I think it would be far better to start with proper driver training from the outset. It appears to me that most drivers (of all classes of vehicle) in NZ have little or no situational awareness, virtually zero consideration for others along with a host of other bad habits that these 'excuses' only exagerate.

Exactly. The problem is that people are neither taught how to drive nor how to be responsible about it.

I am not that concerned with people talking on their cellphones - it's the texting that gets to me! That however is enough of a reason to ban everything but handsfree use of cellphones in vehicles.

Ultimately if people are likely to be distracted there will be distractions a plenty to divert their focus from where it should be.

[disturbed]

Ive actually had a car catch fire due to a ciggy being thrown out the window. was driving my dads toyota 4runner and birds frequently nested in the bonnet was driving along, ciggy sparked just as it hit the ground and shit hit the fan....scary moment

[Beemer]

Not getting at you in particular, but everyone needs to be very careful throwing generalisations like that around, remember labelling all smokers as having the same bad habits is as distasteful as labelling all motorcyclists in a similar manner or all women or whatever.
A simple 'some' placed in front of the word smokers makes a whole world of difference.

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

[Maha]

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

My ex Mother in law (RIP Pat) use to carry around a little ashtray (a fliptop one) and a small pair of sissors. The Sissors were to cut the end off, cos she would only have a few puffs at a time. She would always smoke outside. A very 'thoughtfull' smoker....if thats th right term?....

[Maha]

I am irked by smokers who flick their butts anywhere. Yes, it's an unhealthy addiction which is becoming increasingly vilified by lawmakers and the wider community. So why can't you carry your completed butt to the nearest bin or carry a little box to put them in, rather than stomping them into the footpath or dropping them oh so nonchalantly into the gutter? And don't tell me you don't think about it or that it doesn't matter. All it does is confirm the stereotype that smokers are inconsiderate polluters.

Same could be said about sneezers!!!
Dirty bastard just sneeze out into the air around them adding approx 3000 germs per sneeze!!!!
Cover ya fecken mouth ya dirty lazy inconsiderate air polluters.

[cs363]

There was a survey done recently that the worst distraction for a driver was:

1. another passenger
2. Car Radio
3. Cell phone..

I am totally in agreement with the passenger thing, but we can't kick them out... so why can't smoking be banned in cars, burn yourself, flick it at a biker, or get distracted lighting it... and its bad for you... ok a little too pc ye... but in hindsight its pretty logical not to smoke in cars... it might help young children not have to suffer their parents cig smoke in vehicles too... I guess I just despise smoking, each to their own as long as its not in my face

Totally agree regarding smoking in cars that carry kids, just looking at it from my perspective - I'm a very occasional smoker and one of the few places I do smoke is in my ute which never carries kids and if I had a non smoker with me I wouldn't smoke out of respect. I also have an ashtray in it that I use so we're not in complete disagreement!

[cs363]

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

Just because you haven't seen it happen doesn't mean that it it doesn't. For instance a responsible smoker (of which I freely admit there are very few) would see that there was no receptacle for butts and ash available and therefore not light up. As an occasional (and probably soon to flag it) smoker it may surprise you to know I can't stand the sight of dirty/full ashtrays or the smell and take some steps towards preventing that, though obviously I can't completely disagree with your last statement.
All I'm saying is be careful with the generalisations, motorcyclists are a minority too who are looked upon by many members of the public in the same way as you obviously look upon smokers.
I'm not disagreeing the fact that many (usually hardened) smokers certainly fit the stereotype you are painting, just not all.

[MadDuck]

I'm guessing either returning butts to their owners via the window or been pissing into courier vans. Though the latter does sound like it could almost become a extreme sport....

Especially for us female bikers

[Beemer]

Same could be said about sneezers!!!
Dirty bastard just sneeze out into the air around them adding approx 3000 germs per sneeze!!!!
Cover ya fecken mouth ya dirty lazy inconsiderate air polluters.

Too right - ended up with a cold when we went to Australia a few years ago after this old cow coughed right in my face as I walked towards her a few days earlier.

Good on your ex-MIL too, wish all smokers acted like her.

[Maha]

Too right - ended up with a cold when we went to Australia a few years ago after this old cow coughed right in my face as I walked towards her a few days earlier.

Good on your ex-MIL too, wish all smokers acted like her.

What is with some people!!!!!

I hate it when you walk into a shop (or whatever) and someone is walking out .....Yawning!!!!!.....and you walk into it...ewwwwwwwwww, breath in someone elses yawn.....

[Lissa]

What is with some people!!!!!

I hate it when you walk into a shop (or whatever) and someone is walking out .....Yawning!!!!!.....and you walk into it...ewwwwwwwwww, breath in someone elses yawn.....

Whats worse are the Anti Comfort Zone people. The type that need to be so close to you when talking that you can feel their breath on your face.... you start to take a step back and they follow... sheez dont they realise when you are out the door on the pavement its time to back off!

On topic.. bloody smokers

[Mikkel]

My granddad used to smoke filter-less cigarettes. When he was done he'd just roll the butt between his fingers leaving only a few very small scraps of paper and a little bit of tobacco. Quite a difference from the bloody filters that are everywhere.

[Murray]

And while we are at it, what really annoys me is drink cans, bottles etc littering the streets, alleyways, rest areas, countryside etc etc. How many are going to put there hand up and say they have never thrown a can or bottle onto the bombfire or into the neighbours garden or left in a rest area etc etc.