The White Line

[Motu]

Hmmm,still gunna be close,they may still want to know why you were accelerating in such a situation - maybe if you said you were braking on the easeway for turning right...there's shops and maybe a road on the right,correct?

[dashR]

Hmmm,still gunna be close,they may still want to know why you were accelerating in such a situation - maybe if you said you were braking on the easeway for turning right...there's shops and maybe a road on the right,correct?

Yep, but I think accerlating should be no problem, cause I had to slow right down in my lane because of the car infront, plus there was two cars turing right so I waited for them two cars to go past and turn before I moved and hit the gravel.

The gravel also looks quite hard to see since it is very clean gravel, my picture is a bit blury but I'm geting a friend to get some more pics.

[Mr Skid]

My condolences on your accident, but that appears to be a painted median strip that you were going to pass on. Naughty. A $150 ticket if I'm not mistaken.

You could argue that you didn't see it for the gravel..

I am suprised you didn't see the gravel as it doesn't look like just a couple of stones there, but hey I wasn't there at the time.

Motu's suggestion about using the painted median to access the servo on the right is probably the only defence I can think of that would justify riding on it, scumdog will be along soon to confirm, but I think you can use it for 200m to enter / exit the flow of traffic.

I still think it is a bit naff of the laww to be getting involved though, I would have thought a puncture wound and broken bike would have been punishment enough.

[sAsLEX]

Going off topic here, but arent councils meant to keep the road clean? Heaps of areas not on the driving line are covered in gravel all around the place and these are the areas needed to be used in an emergency situation and most of them are barely rideable at the best of times! would they be liable if this was the cause of injury etc due to lack of grip in an emergency situation, or would it just be put down to speed?

[Madmax]

had a bin on a piece of paper in the wet one time
could not see it because of the car in front
the judge saw in my favor
(it was a factor out side of my control)

[Mongoose]

Scuse me, but is that an intersetion you were going to pass the cars on? That in itself might not look to flash in court?
I would not use an old Defensive driving Cert, in court, it shows you learned nothing by it, try for a fresh one to say you gave yourself a fright and tried to learn from it.
On the other hand I would look seriously at taking it on the chin and carry on with life.

[dashR]

Scuse me, but is that an intersetion you were going to pass the cars on? That in itself might not look to flash in court?
I would not use an old Defensive driving Cert, in court, it shows you learned nothing by it, try for a fresh one to say you gave yourself a fright and tried to learn from it.
On the other hand I would look seriously at taking it on the chin and carry on with life.

I coulda been slightly down further on the road. I dunno, their were ppl turning right and I know I waited for them to go before I went. This photo was taken 6 days later so thier could of been gravel down further where that tarseal patch is. I just hope the cops got a pic of where my tyre went through the gravel, thats if they even found the crash scene since they showed up when I and my bike was at the service station.

[Deano]

Going off topic here, but arent councils meant to keep the road clean?

I would say its a question of did the Council know about it and have sufficient time to rectify before you could prove liability. The 'odd' bit of gravel here and there is par for the course, as are painted lines in the wet. Its when road works are carried out that signs must be erected.

I raised the issue to the local Council regarding those steel service plates in the road being a traffic hazard (not just for bikes as Ive slid on them in a car in the wet at very low speeds). Some have a layer of bitumen on them and some don't - I suggested for consistancy and safety that the Council make the bitumen ones a mandatory standard, but haven't heard back.....as often happens with bureaucrats (bureauprats).

[sAsLEX]

i am talking about build up of gravel at every major intersection here on the shore, on the unused line there is alwasy piles of gravel and glass etc

And to the point of those steel plates some of them are like an inch thick and dont stick flush to the ground, would hate to hit one on a bike!

[marty]

and do you complain about the bits of rubber off-line at the racetrack too? surely the racetrack people are responsible for cleaning those off. with your reasoning, if you go into them and bail, you would have some redress.

[Motu]

Steel plates are at the sites of road works,even if there are no signs erected you should know there are road works - the steel plates are a dead giveaway...oh,you didn't see them,oh,come on!,use your eyes! Crap builds up of line,it's normal and has been a fixture of NZ roads for longer than my 35 riding years,your only reason to be out there is avoidance of a stranded vehicle,I don't think there is any other reason to be using the middle of an intersection - kinda dangerous if you ask me.

Oh,rereading the posts it might be some are complaining of manhole covers? Um...I'm speachless!

[sAsLEX]

meh flame me if you wish, just stating that the road would be safer for all if escape avenues were clean and usable. I really dont care that much as if you have eyes its easy enough to avoid

[marty]

the road would be safer if the fuckwits that road and drove on it stayed at home and did cross stitch

[Motu]

Yeah,but with only one perfect rider left in the world to be able to ride on these deserted roads,I'd get kinda bored,I'd havta fake an accident.

[Milky]

I agree marty... all of us should sit at home and do absolutely nothing to remove all chance of getting hurt by gravel and nasssssty steel plates and wet paint and mad cagers and dogs and and and...

Make allowances for these things and stop trying to blame others for YOUR inability to read the surface. Sometimes shit happens beyond your control, but you can limit the consequences of the mishaps by being aware of what might be on the road, and where it is likely to be. For all the rest, that is what insurance is for.