The White Line

[ResidentAngel]

I think i'll take pauls advice, need some pictures of the road and my tyres. Will be interesting to see what the police have as evidence.

Check the road for diesel spills, and for loose metal that the local council should have swept up. There has to be a reason for losing it, and if you reckon its not you, then you need to find out why, even if only for your own eddification.
Tessie

[Motu]

I can understand slipping on white lines under emergancy braking - you are committed to a line and it's very difficult to take avoiding action and at the same time not hit a slippery road marking (actualy I find them not very slippery these days,comments older riders?) But sliding and falling off under acceleration?
As spudchucker says,that's under the riders control.I've done it myself - but an XS1 is in a league of it's own,far more power to the rear wheel than any of you guys here could handle - mind you I only went sideways...they are designed to do that.

[wari]

... ANd I was arse-suming wet AUckland ...

BUt its bin dry 'asn'tit ? ... :eyepoke:

GO figure ...

STrange but true ...

I SHould read things propperly ...

DRinke more ..

EAt less ...

[Joni]

... ANd I was arse-suming wet AUckland ...

BUt its bin dry 'asn'tit ? ... :eyepoke:

GO figure ...

STrange but true ...

I SHould read things propperly ...

DRinke more ..

EAt less ...

Drink more.... eat less...
I must remember those words of wisdom.

Hey its Satrurday night, where the music Wari? :spudbooge

[marty]

bit like 'eatin's cheatin'

[Two Smoker]

a balanced diet is a beer in each hand.......

[JohnBoy]

just get a really good lawyer, the coppers will have some bizzare idea of what they thinks happened. just say that you were committed to a line, explain how you can just shift lines cause it was too busy and just say that it is just one of those things. hopefully the JP will understand and see that you have already suffered enough!

[spudchucka]

just get a really good lawyer, the coppers will have some bizzare idea of what they thinks happened. just say that you were committed to a line, explain how you can just shift lines cause it was too busy and just say that it is just one of those things. hopefully the JP will understand and see that you have already suffered enough!

You obviously haven't been in court all that often.

I've seen plenty of people try the "its just one of those things" defence, not to mention the "its the roads fault - not mine" defence, then theres the "I'm broke and this has already cost me a fortune" defence and the "there was cow shit on the road" defence often comes up too.

I've never seen anyone get off a careless charge using such an excuse.

What does the court concern itself with?

You were in control of a vehicle and you lost control of that vehicle - FACT.

By all means offer an explanation as to why you lost control but it will have to be a pretty compelling one to convince the court. Don't forget that if you stand up in court and offer some lame excuse you will be cross examined by the prosecution, 99.99% of the times I've seen this in court the defendant ends up hanging themselves.

Getting a "really good lawyer" in most cases will just add to the amount the whole thing has cost you.

[2_SL0]

Stand up and take it like a man. Dont piss around trying to get out of it, your waste your time and money. Unless you have a very good geniune reason, get in, pay up and get back out. Dont waste your time or money trying to get off. I hate to agree with Spud ( ) but its black and white for the court system.

[marty]

Stand up and take it like a man. Dont piss around trying to get out of it, your waste your time and money. Unless you have a very good geniune reason, get in, pay up and get back out. Dont waste your time or money trying to get off. I hate to agree with Spud ( ) but its black and white for the court system.

of course you could go to a recognised track day with instructors - tell them what happened, get a completion certificate, write in pleading guilty, tell them how remorseful you are, and how much this incident has woken you up to riding defensively, and ask nicely for a discharge without conviction. unless you've got previous this often works, especially at the bigger courts.

[2_SL0]

of course you could go to a recognised track day with instructors - tell them what happened, get a completion certificate, write in pleading guilty, tell them how remorseful you are, and how much this incident has woken you up to riding defensively, and ask nicely for a discharge without conviction. unless you've got previous this often works, especially at the bigger courts.

You could but no guarantee that it will work. I dont believe it would, but by all means give that a go. But I would not hire yourself a fancy lawyer and attempt
to argue the charge. (without good cause and serious proof of a error on their behalf being made)

My point is weigh up the time and cost these options will take and the chance that it may or may not work and base your decision purely on that. It does not matter whether your right, wrong, Jamican, Nazi, Swiss, a tree hugger, or Vegatarian. If your lucky your get a judge who is having a good day.

[dashR]

of course you could go to a recognised track day with instructors - tell them what happened, get a completion certificate, write in pleading guilty, tell them how remorseful you are, and how much this incident has woken you up to riding defensively, and ask nicely for a discharge without conviction. unless you've got previous this often works, especially at the bigger courts.

I did a defensive driving course way back to get my licence quicker, but I dont know how that could help. I'll be checking out the road tommorow, then I can really figure out why the bike slid out. But it will probably look like thier was an additional factor on the road as it was dry conditions.

[JohnBoy]

You obviously haven't been in court all that often.

no... i try too keep my nose clean these days.
but i still stand by the fact of a good lawyer... but only on the condition that you have a good case and if you were to win it would be more benefical to pay thier cost than to pay the gov. personally i would pay for the lawyer cause the extra points on your licence (if applicable) will come back and haunt you later.
i had a issue a few years back where the member of the public complained about my driving, i didn't admit it and i wasn't caught by the police. but still ended up with 150$ fine and 20 pts, ever since i wish that i had contested it!

[scumdog]

no...
i had a issue a few years back where the member of the public complained about my driving, i didn't admit it and i wasn't caught by the police. but still ended up with 150$ fine and 20 pts, ever since i wish that i had contested it!

Yes, but WAS your driving that bad? that the public complained about it? - THAT is the real issue, not that "I didn't admit it" or "I wasn't caught by the Police"

[dashR]

I checked out the road today, there is a big pile of gravel where I fell off.