Chch Wednesday Evening Cruises - 2008

[200BUSA]

MMMMM 30years ago -- we used to time ourselves from the bottom of the hill to the Kiwi and back.Wouldnt do that now.Was a lot less traffic then.Young and stupid.But have learnt alot over the years.

[MVnut]

mate.. it's NOT the fork seal I race 3 bikes with fucked seals (cos im to scottish to fix em) tell ya what.. if you want Ill follow you for a circite (gebies, kiwi, halswell) by then i can tell you what 'I' think needs improving... lets do this befor the RS is returned aye?

Take 'D' up on this offer Dave. ps how's the RS (I just got one 2)

[dangerous]

OK i dont drink myself and i dont mind anyone else drinking but i dont think riding and drinking go together - i think the Wed rides are a good thing for riders meeting and learning.

true.. yet they end up at a pub, and some are on learners/restricted... I however do drink infact and I have good reason to tonight as my .................................................. .... have drunk a shit load tonight (you can tell aye my spelling has improved) BUT I DO NOT DRINK more than 1 or 2 beers on a ride think about that people.

[Transalper]

What do you reckon, I asked the same... pic cut from earler post on the night.

Looks like Dev and Phinox both had beerish looking drinks in front of them but can't see what anyone else has, and as for my drink, as usual it was orange with nothing added, not even ice.

Don't remember anyone repeatedly getting up and refilling, there were also no Jugs on the table.
There was how ever a bottle of Watties tomato sauce on the table there which someone saw fit to bring as the supplied pub stuff is crap by comparison.

[scumdog]

What do you reckon, I asked the same... pic cut from earler post on the night.

A recipe for disaster - a few drinks, a few young guys and a few motorbikes.

When I was younger (just after we left pounds shillings and pennies behind) I found out it took bugger all drink to make me think/ride like I was Captain Marvel.

The number of times it all nearly went pear-shaped and I ended up with the thought "what the fuck was I thinking?" I hate to think - but I was lucky, I never binned.

A favourite cluster-fuck was stopping at the third or so pub en route to a rally and somebody would say "Ah well, we'll cruise of noe eh?" and somebody would say "yep,we'll just cruise - no racing eh" and another would say "definitely no raving for sure"

And at the first bend about half a mile down the road we'd all be white-knuckled, things scraping, bars alomost touching and thinking "shit-shit-shit"

Stay off the drinks until the LAST pub -and then only have one, ya might live longer.

[T.W.R]

What do you reckon, I asked the same... pic cut from earler post on the night.

OK i dont drink myself and i dont mind anyone else drinking but i dont think riding and drinking go together - i think the Wed rides are a good thing for riders meeting and learning.

Not defending anyone but pretty much everyone there only had 1 drink and there was a mixture from orange, coke, beer, & I myself had 1 Jimmy RTD. And they also had pretty sizable meals to go with them.
Though having said that a lot of rides have an emphasis for a pub as a destination

As for Dyers Pass you guys are lucky its not 30+ years ago when I was down there when it was open road speed limit whereas now its speed restricted and you guys wouldn't speed and break the law eh so no-one should really have a problem with those corners now.

MMMMM 30years ago -- we used to time ourselves from the bottom of the hill to the Kiwi and back.Wouldnt do that now.Was a lot less traffic then.Young and stupid.But have learnt alot over the years.

That's digressing from the point, but quite a few of us could trumpet about what we used to do around those roads; simple fact is that Dyer's pass Rd bites when it wants too & it's claimed plenty over the years experienced, inexperienced, the works. but even with the limit now attempting to get around that particular bend at said limit on a less than perfect line is asking for trouble.

[200BUSA]

one drink can be one to many.

[T.W.R]

one drink can be one to many.

Too true but you've just claimed the scalps of 99% of the population of KB with that comment

[200BUSA]

Too true but you've just claimed the scalps of 99% of the population of KB with that comment

So did you enjoy the Wed ride anyway?
I would like to go on more but shift work gets in the way.

[Dave-]

mate.. it's NOT the fork seal I race 3 bikes with fucked seals (cos im to scottish to fix em) tell ya what.. if you want Ill follow you for a circite (gebies, kiwi, halswell) by then i can tell you what 'I' think needs improving... lets do this befor the RS is returned aye?

yeah I didn't think it was the fork seal.

Did you have anything to drink while on your ride?Was your head clear?Alcohol reduces reaction time.If you didnt have anything to drink then you maybe right about your fork seal.

had 1 stella with a packet of chips an hour before, which I had induced over time, had been eating food all day, I'd had a pretty cushy day, I wasn't fatigued, my head was clear.

there may have been some target fixation but i remember looking away down the road, and I didn't hit the railing i slipped in the gravel between it and the road so i reacted before I got to the railing, I didn't lock up (the brakes) but I did apply them lightly and equally to keep the balance only after things went pear shaped.

I think, final judgment, was poor cornering technique, I didn't roll into the corner, didn't relax shoulder let it drop, I didn't lean, I didn't move my weight on the bike but I did try get around the corner.

edit: I lie, it was a steinlarger pure (1.0 standard?)

[T.W.R]

So did you enjoy the Wed ride anyway?
I would like to go on more but shift work gets in the way.

Only managed to get up to it due to having a Half day at work and had been meaning to check it out for a while, but yeah it wasn't to bad, meeting a few new faces etc.
The ride itself around the bays wasn't anything new as I do it regularly early mornings on the weekends usually figure eight the bays & summit rd before it gets congested with cars & pushies

[Bren]

I however do drink infact and I have good reason to tonight as my son's short life finishes tomorow...

Say what? geeze mate, whats happened? sorry to hear...

The number of times it all nearly went pear-shaped and I ended up with the thought "what the fuck was I thinking?" I hate to think - but I was lucky, I never binned.

Stay off the drinks until the LAST pub -and then only have one, ya might live longer.

Yup mate....have been in those situations too...young, pissed and on 2 wheels aint a good combination...Bloody almost killed meself once...took a corner on a shingle road way too fast...at the apex was a bridge...I missed it...but shit myself when I landed on the other side of the creek...and too pissed to feel a bloody thing...next morning I freaked when I saw how close I was to killing myself...bike was messed up but I was still in 1 piece

one drink can be one to many.

True!

[200BUSA]

yeah I didn't think it was the fork seal.



had 1 stella with a packet of chips an hour before, which I had induced over time, had been eating food all day, I'd had a pretty cushy day, I wasn't fatigued, my head was clear.

I think, final judgment, was poor cornering technique, I didn't roll into the corner, didn't relax shoulder let it drop, I didn't lean, I didn't move my weight on the bike but I did try get around the corner.

Bugger - i hope you get your bike back on the road soon then.
I was only checking on wether you had consumed a bit to much,but you have cleared that up-thanks.

[Transalper]

Debate it as much as you like,......There are plenty of easily found landmarks etc around the outskirts of ChCh to use as launching platforms for the W.N.R with easier access & departure, rides north of the city could use the 'PEG', rides to the west could use the 'Yaldy', rides south could use the 'Rolly Inn', rides heading around the Pennisula could use the Princess Margret Hospital carpark; all of these are easily located, have less traffic congestion to deal with, and once departing on a ride mean less battling through main city thoroughfares

Unfortunately the one of the problems is that we want it to always be departing from the same place and time no matter which direction we are headed. I have my personal preference and it isn't BK but people wanted to be able to do things such as get a burger before departure or were worried that they wouldn't make it on time if they had to go yet another 15 minutes past BK across town after work when they are cutting it fine already. Fair enough too I guess.
Hopefully once the pedestrian lights are finished and working there, we will be able to send someone to push the button to stop traffic and so all get a chance to pull out.

........At the pre-departure gathering it should be asked if there are people wanting a bit of advice or their riding monitored, not just a " OK here's where we're going & blah blah will be the 1st regroup point" if some people do want as per above then a senior rider or riders should be allocated to rally said group together & take the reigns and find out what the younger or less experienced are seeking to learn then depart to said destination as a group separate from the so called faster group............the option should be there and offered...........

Problem here is that there is no real leader here to start with. I'm not trying to put down phoenixgtr, just to say that I believe him to be a reluctant leader. He considered the idea of the Wednesday rides the Wellington crew do were good enough to suggest it would be nice for us too but he still wants to be lead himself, not do the leading. Now, just because his was the first voice he finds himself pushed to the front line every week.
I think the biggest step in seeing the ride run in a way similar to TWRs suggestions would be having someone like TWR (pity you live so far away and so can't get here more often) volunteer to step up and take the job so the rest of us can settle back down and follow.
Now I'm a back seat driver too, so don't be looking toward me to step up, trying to get me to do something I really don't want to do is like...

[MIZXR]

I was following behind him most of the way up the hill and can say that his ridding wasn't that bad, just got caught out on a coner that tightend more than he expected. Expereince will teach him to allow himself a greater margin for corners doing unexpected things.

Fron the look of the road today looks as if he ran out of road and hit the shingle on the edge, but whos to say. Although I came around the corner pretty soon after and the only thing still moving was Dave, glad your alright.

When stuff like that happens on a corner like that in the dark those still upright need to make sure the cars comming into the corner know there is a problem before they enter the corner. And clear off to a safer place, better to lose a damaged bike than a person trying to help