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    Police shoot and kill another person

    Police shoot man dead in street
    5:00AM Thursday September 27, 2007
    Police cordon off part of Stanmore Rd in Christchurch where a body lies under a sheet near a police car. Photo / Simon Baker

    Police cordon off part of Stanmore Rd in Christchurch where a body lies under a sheet near a police car. Photo / Simon Baker

    Police shot and killed a man last night after being called to a domestic incident.

    The drama began after officers received reports a man was smashing a flat with a hammer.

    Armed police went to the address in inner-city Christchurch and found the 37-year-old man in nearby Stanmore Rd attacking a vehicle with the hammer.

    Police said he was shot at 8.36pm, and died at the scene at about 9pm.

    A resident told One News he heard what sounded like someone kicking and banging a car, then what he described as four gun shots.

    Late last night, the man's body was still at the scene of the shooting. He had not been indentified last night.

    Police District Commander Sandra Manderson said a homicide investigation and a separate Police Complaints Authority inquiry had started.

    "The homicide inquiry will be run parallel to the PCA inquiry using separate teams of staff," she said.

    Police Kaumatua Reverend Maurice Gray had been called in to ensure that the cultural process of tapu lifting was done correctly and that the scene was rendered neutral when police work was completed.



    The last man to be killed by police was Haidar Ebbadi Mahdi, 37, shot by a police officer at his home in Auckland in August 2004.

    Taser woulda worked better!


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    Let the information come out before we jump to conclusions aye.

    Have you had weapons training? Do you know the SOPs that they follow? huh?



    It was CHCH though wasn't it? http://stuff.co.nz/4213339a6530.html

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    Oh dear... not another one of 'those' ones
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    mate, i think it was overkill...excuse the pun


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    Even without knowing full story yet, 4 shots seems excessive if the guy had a hammer..........4 shots surely is 'kill' rather than 'incapacitate'.

    The full story will no doubt reveal itself.

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    I'm gonna reserve judgement till theres more info, no point in flamin anyone yet.
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    They just saved us taxpayers having to support a guy who doesnt think it nessesary to stop using a weopon when threatened by cops, and the got it done before bedtime. Next time you have your car, bike or loved one smashed up, let me know how much restraint you would like applied in stopping the offender.

    I will wait until we have the full story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Let the information come out before we jump to conclusions aye.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    The full story will no doubt reveal itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by deanohit View Post
    I'm gonna reserve judgement till theres more info, no point in flamin anyone yet.
    Wise decisions... It reads like its gonna be another of 'those' ones tho doesnt it... Mr Clarke will comment... someone will get upset... then someone else will resign... and the media will go into a frenzy and and....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Even without knowing full story yet, 4 shots seems excessive if the guy had a hammer..........4 shots surely is 'kill' rather than 'incapacitate'.

    The full story will no doubt reveal itself.
    Don't cops in NZ shoot to kill rather than to incapacitate? Something to do with reinforcing the gun as a last resort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber020 View Post
    Ta guy who doesnt think it nessesary to stop using a weopon when threatened by cops
    yeah what a dumbarse. i liked that email from the cops saying if you have a knife we will shoot you. Seems this coppa cant tell a knife from a hammer, but the end result is all good - peopl might start realising there is a limit

    i wonder if they left the body under a car for the night wondering where it might be though

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    Quote Originally Posted by caesius View Post
    Don't cops in NZ shoot to kill rather than to incapacitate? Something to do with reinforcing the gun as a last resort.
    I hope not............I mean if the guy had a hammer, surely the Police don't have to resort to guns to stop guys like this.

    What about the riot gear with shields?

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    Don't be a bunch of pussies. Good job. I wish this happened more often.

    What makes me really laugh is the following...

    "Police District Commander Sandra Manderson said a homicide investigation and a separate Police Complaints Authority inquiry had started."

    What? Who complained? Bloody joke. Okay, perhaps a little investigation may be in order but instead we now get a cop(s) who should get a medal has to spend the next 4 years in court.

    And this little bute...

    "Police Kaumatua Reverend Maurice Gray had been called in to ensure that the cultural process of tapu lifting was done correctly and that the scene was rendered neutral when police work was completed."

    More special treatment. The local witch doctor does a song and dance. If they have magic powers, why didn't his farnow lift the "evil spirit" from the prick while he was still alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caesius View Post
    Don't cops in NZ shoot to kill rather than to incapacitate? Something to do with reinforcing the gun as a last resort.
    Very few forces, police or otherwise shoot to maim etc, and rounds are directed at the centre of mass for maximum effect.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Even without knowing full story yet, 4 shots seems excessive if the guy had a hammer..........4 shots surely is 'kill' rather than 'incapacitate'.

    The full story will no doubt reveal itself.
    Well that's less than a magazine so that's fair. You fire until the threat is no longer there, if that is 4 or 10 rounds ......

    What do you work as Grahame? Do you undertake firearms training? Do you put yourself on the front line? Do you serve your community?

    Once you do some of those maybe then you can pass judegement.

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    Very few forces, police or otherwise shoot to maim etc, and rounds are directed at the centre of mass for maximum effect.
    Thought so, I remember my 5th form Science teacher was an ex-cop, told us some mean stories. Also told us cops don't shoot to wound - he'd been in a few gun situations before, never fired himself - or so he told us...

    But the pussy's don't even shoot for the head! Any fool can shoot randomly at the heart, cops should get presents if they manage to get a clear head shot.

    In fact, maybe they could have a quota for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post

    "Police District Commander Sandra Manderson said a homicide investigation and a separate Police Complaints Authority inquiry had started."

    What? Who complained? Bloody joke. Okay, perhaps a little investigation may be in order but instead we now get a cop(s) who should get a medal has to spend the next 4 years in court.
    You speak of medals a funny anecdote about medals.

    A Marine was hit in Afghanistan, in the ensuing firefight the Marines had to evac leaving the guy behind. They didn't really like that idea so they wrangled up an Apache or two, jumped on the wings and went and retrieved him sitting outside the helo on the wings, they retrieved the guy but was dead on arrival back at base. They risked going into a live combat zone on the outside of a helo and you think they got medals? Nope but the pilots have.....


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