Cemetary circuit 2007: Farce

[Usarka]

Try flicking them a few notes to fix it up. Sounds like they may be up to a bit of bribery and corruption to get things done.....

[CHOPPA]

i would have backed you up for sure on the grid bro in the interests of fair play etc etc... but to my advantage i didnt put wets on for qualifying so they used my practice times, not that it did me any good!

[Nonbeliever]

Nothing suprises me anymore.

More coruption against the "common man"

[quickbuck]

People really need to know that the racing they pay their twenty bucks to watch, is rigged.

$25!

Bloody took me by surprise too....
Initially the cost, then to read this!

Corruption alive and well in Wanganui. Really sux for the "little guys", and without them the fans wouldn't be there to watch.

Yes, it was great to see the Yellow team there... and all the other "Factory" boys, but it was even better to see Mr. Craig kick ass on a supposedly "too powerful for the track 1000".
Why did i go this year?
To watch a good mate of mine, in his first time there, pick up a couple of good finishes in the F3. Yep, no where near the front, but good to see him there.... After all, isn't that what it is all about?

I guess the organisers have forgotten that.

BTW, yep, moving goal posts after the game has started is unprofessional in any codes book.

[ali]

Sorry, their judgement seems to have been lacking.

Cemetary circuit is the best $ 25.00 I spend all year, yours and others efforts to entertain the masses are greatly appreciated and you showed a skill level I can only dream about.

Make sure you return next year.

Wait till you have a clear head before protesting to the relevant authorities, a complaint made in a polite and structured manner ( complete with solution ) is more likely to be taken on board, even if they deserve to be shouted out.

Cheers

[SPman]

The only way any notice will be taken (however slightly) is to make a hell of a racket, now! Also get the other riders organised so that if something like this happens, all the riders affected, strike. People soon get tired of watching 5-6 bikes in a race and want to know why before they all fuck off! The only way you can get through to these pricks, is embarrass them publicly and make a shambles of their show.Then maybe people who put these dickheads in charge will think, before they act (although, I wouldn't bet on it)

It worked in moto GP back in the 70's, re safety.

Good on all you guys, though, who make the event what it is, despite the bullshit and politicking that goes on. You did well, but you'd feel even better about it if you didn't have to put up with this sort of crap, all the time.

[limbimtimwim]

How about


Actually, I don't know if this was MNZ's doing, but it does seem to be the opposite of their motto. It's hardly fair.

[kr250]

Deviating slightly,but as a punter who has attended Wanganui for the last 20 odd years I found 07 to lack atmospere and and a bloody yawn for most of the day. why the hell do road race meetings need bloody motor cross bikes,surely there are enough classic bikes and chairs to fill the program.This would alleviate the long delays while the track is swept and cleaned.I'm voting with my dollars won't be back while super retards are run as a class

[Shaun]

Thats just fuckin bullshit, I'm fuckin wild. Theres gonna be some mags and MNZ people getting letters this week.

Write to the CLUB President, and boss of the day!

include a self addressed envelope, for a return ( IF)

[merv]

Sorry to hear about what happened Jimmy, but in the circumstances you did pretty well and I was cheering for you and took a few photos of you going by which I'll post on another thread. So yeah we were there supporting you as promised.

To those talking about the motards, here's me a committed chook chaser from way back, but hell I think its wrong too, and boring and I agree with you entirely. I don't go to Wanganui to see dirt bikes ripping around on tarseal. While two of the 'tard races were on that's when me an my Bro' cruised the pits, we couldn't be bothered watching them. Saw a few people we know, but Jimmy where was your pit coz we didn't see you? Were you consigned to a toilet block or something well around the corner to match your newbie status?

[slowpoke]

Hmmmm, as someone who has been depressed at the sorry state of NZ road racing I think I can officially announce a new all time low. Faaaaark me, how did things get to this pathetic level? Our Christmas backyard cricket game was better organised than this bloody shambles even with rain delays, fence repairs (wet grass is slippery dontcha know) and an imprompty nudie run interrupting proceedings......
Waddayadoaboudit? Fuck knows, but my estimation of Brian Bernard has gone down a few notches. As he is supported by Yamaha my estimation of them has gone down a peg or two as well. It may be guilt by association alone but just as his team's glory is reflected on Yamaha so is accepting a blatantly bogus helping hand. The same goes for Andrew Stroud/Suzuki.
I'd be interested in Brian's side of the story and after consultation I'd be approaching Yamaha for comment on the situation. He tends to support overseas riders so it's not like any drop in support will impact NZ riders.
I dare say a few of the riders affected will be doing the Nationals so get together and organise a formal protest and distribute pamphlets/ leaflets/flyers to the public.
Unfortunately the time has passed to make a big impact. Something needed to be done then and there to highlight exactly what has happened. A statement can still be made but it's going to take some organisation, determination and selflessnes, something the road racing fraternity is lacking when off the track.

[twinshock750]

Trashie

Seems like you got stiffed mate.
1) They tell you on the grid (if I recall what your wrote) which doesn't allow you time yo do anything, nor doe sit put you in a good frame of mind right before the start...which is dangerous.
2) When you do have time, it's too late....the race is run.

I suspect that it was probably more the organisers / officials on the day than MNZ, but MNZ steward is there to protect the riders and their rights and is not there as an extension of the organisers powers.

As they had documented how it was to run in the supp regs I believe you would have had the right to lodge a formal protest within 30 min of the result by filling in the correct form and paying the $35 ( I think it is) protest fee to the MNZ steward. That would have caused the proverbial "Oh my god moment" for them. Would probably meant the starting positionfor the next race would be as per the rules.

As suggested elsewhere, I would right to the organisers and to MNZ asking what will be done about the organisers not following their own rules as set down. Get a really curly qustion in there for them to answer. Like why should you be penalised by others inaction (ie the guys who didn't ride in qual, but were on the grid infront of you - they DID have the opportunity to ride, they chose not to be there, as compared to say not being able to be there as a result of some "act of god")

I've seen shite like this at Wanga's on and off for years - I've seen them put sidecars out with solo's for the novice practice....

[merv]

OK just to let you know I've posted a few photos for you over on this thread of Garry's http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63767

[Rashika]

Are organisers giving special treatment to motards?


Agreed. Motards are awesome but you need the screaming 600-1000s out there as well. And the motards weren't even slding into corners properly. Hopefully I'll have a motard in time for next years race, as I said last year

slightly off the topic, but yes I'd say most street races are giving motards a priority. Now dont get me wrong, nothing against Motards BUT... they have a place and time and road racing simply aint it. (Another thread completely ) Having said that Greymouth did a fantastic job at providing an excellant motard track as part of the st circuit and I will be back there fer sure to race and watch. Eg of motards having priority? 5 races at the last nelson st race vs 1.5 for the buckets and 2 for Post classic.

back to Trashie...

[GIXser]

So here is a suggestion on what to do about this for future races ,Paeroa especially,
We need to get a consensus together of enough participants entering paeroa street races, then all those riders need to agree , if the organisers somewhat deviate from the rules, the riders protest and basically dont race, if there is enough support , then the organisers of paeroa will have to follow the rule book the the last detail.
If they dont, Paeroa wont have a race,!
i am going to start a new thread under racing to see what the people say ?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63806