Cemetary circuit 2007: Farce

[twinshock750]

What?

You have to pay to get any help from them?

Nah, it's only on loan. Who's to say on any proest that anyone has been wronged! You get it back I think if you protest is upheld.

The fee and the form means it is in writing and (ie formal and stipulates exactly what you are protesting so there is no confusion later) and the fee makes people think before protesting the colour of your socks.

Bit sad if the organisers and MNZ steward couldn't organise that. The protest form should be something they can produce easily. Failing that a blank sheet of paper where the protestor can outline briefly the issue and rule breach should be enough, along with their licence # and name, contact details etc. The "MNZ form" from memory is only so that there is a prompt to get all the details required.

[twinshock750]

Thanks for your comments Glen. From a racer with as much experiance as yourself, it's good to know how you see the situation.

Cheating is cheating. Plain and simple.

I also know for a fact that someone who benefitted greatly from this illegal rule change feels zero remorse and in fact thinks they deserved the rules to be changed.

Arse: For someone to benefit from cheating means that someone else is loosing from the situation. Shows how much the recipient of the advantage taken cares about others.

[huck farley]

Jimmy and the rest of you guys that got ripped of on Boxing day straight after the race was over should have gone and sat on the start finish line in protest of the Mickey mouse deal you all got handed out. Fukn stinks and makes me ashamed to be a local.

And I say it again The cemetery circuit is no place to ride farm bikes on, FFS go away and fined some cockeys paddock to race around, the lot of you!! And keep our racetrack clean for the real blokes to race on. Even if they were ripped of by the officials.

[jellywrestler]

the whole gridding system is flawed at wanganui to a point of being dangerous.
grids should not be fixed on practice times, practice is practice this way effectively your practice sessions are races to qualify.
the bernard bikes should've been well up given their ability as the whole point is to acheive a safe race start.
gridding the world championship winning sidecar of steve brons at 10th was stupid- this bike should've been on the front row for safeties sake. as was he tried to make up for hius lost ground and caused a huge crash.
last year there was an xs650 yamaha with 5 inch tyres in front of R1 powered units with 10inch tyres as the smaller bike had a better qualifying time.
anyone with an ounce of grey matter would know that the drag race to the first corners is going to end in tears, and it did, eight sidecars plied up.

let the grids be set by someone with rider and machine knowledge and LET PRACTICE BE PRACTICE

[Sketchy_Racer]

I completly disagree with your words jellywrestler.

If the "fast" guys are in fact "fast" then they can get their sorry arses out into qualifying just like everyone else and EARN their place on the grid.

[Kickaha]

gridding the world championship winning sidecar of steve brons at 10th was stupid- this bike should've been on the front row for safeties sake. as was he tried to make up for hius lost ground and caused a huge crash.

According to Steve that happened when another outfit hit him from behind, being on the front is no guarentee incidents like that wont happen as Stacey was right off the front and didn't make the corner until after the crash

His passenger hadn't raced at that track before so they probably took it easy in qualifying hence the low grid number

last year there was an xs650 yamaha with 5 inch tyres in front of R1 powered units with 10inch tyres as the smaller bike had a better qualifying time.
anyone with an ounce of grey matter would know that the drag race to the first corners is going to end in tears, and it did, eight sidecars plied up.

let the grids be set by someone with rider and machine knowledge and LET PRACTICE BE PRACTICE

I don't remember any 8 sidecar pile up in turn 1 last year, I thought that happened up through the cemetery where the fast ones would have already got past

[jimsaliasaccount]

So, please discuss, tell me I'm wrong to feel cheated and give me a good reason.

Dear James,

It appears you feel you have been cheated.

You and every other "cheated" rider had the perfect oppurtunity on the day, infront of the tv cameras to go and take your "rightfuly earnedl" spots on the grid. Yet you and the others didnt, you sat there an took it, right up the a....

Now at home on your computer you are bitching, moaning and accusing people on the internet, infact even you started a defenseless tirade on Andrew Strouds religious beliefs. Come on!

Why so up in arms now when all you did on the grid was sit there an stare evils into someones helmet on your grid spot??????

[skelstar]

Mate, everything is always clearer in retrospect.

[White trash]

Dear James,

It appears you feel you have been cheated.

I don't actually care whether I was or wasn't cheated, is it fair to change rules after the fact? You obviously think so. I've no doubt the guys who made the most from this "rule" change were faster than me on the day. It does wind me up a little that I out qualified Stroud fair and square only to have is pathetic twelfth place on the grid.

You and every other "cheated" rider had the perfect oppurtunity on the day, infront of the tv cameras to go and take your "rightfuly earnedl" spots on the grid. Yet you and the others didnt, you sat there an took it, right up the a....

We thought the appropriate action would be to try and sort the issue out ammicably with the organisers. Something they weren't interested in talking about

Now at home on your computer you are bitching, moaning and accusing people on the internet, infact even you started a defenseless tirade on Andrew Strouds religious beliefs. Come on!

WTF? Wanna direct me to where I accused Andrew of anything or once started a tirade on his religious beliefs? Nice trolling, I thought you could read better than that Jim.

Why so up in arms now when all you did on the grid was sit there an stare evils into someones helmet on your grid spot??????

Because I want the motorcycle racing fans of New Zealand to know that their championships are effectively rigged.

[Tony.OK]

the whole gridding system is flawed at wanganui to a point of being dangerous.
grids should not be fixed on practice times, practice is practice this way effectively your practice sessions are races to qualify.
the bernard bikes should've been well up given their ability as the whole point is to acheive a safe race start.
gridding the world championship winning sidecar of steve brons at 10th was stupid- this bike should've been on the front row for safeties sake. as was he tried to make up for hius lost ground and caused a huge crash.
last year there was an xs650 yamaha with 5 inch tyres in front of R1 powered units with 10inch tyres as the smaller bike had a better qualifying time.anyone with an ounce of grey matter would know that the drag race to the first corners is going to end in tears, and it did, eight sidecars plied up.

let the grids be set by someone with rider and machine knowledge and LET PRACTICE BE PRACTICE

Couldn't agree more regarding "practice"
But QUALIFYING is what postitions have to be based on,those who do not do qualifying should be at the back off the grid PERIOD.
If a slower rider sets a faster time during qualifying than someone else then they have earned their grid position.
If a rider can't be bothered qualifying then "sorry but you're on the back row mate"......should've put in some effort aye?

[White trash]

I'm suprised this is the first time I've read about something like this actually. Motorsport in NZ is rife with this kind of BS, a similar thing happened to Anton Tallot in Targa to give Jim Richards his media covered "win". Stamp it out before it becomes commonplace.

Hey DM, come 'round for a beer mate. I've got 6 or 7 stories about NZ motorcycle racing being rife with corruption and political BS.

[cowpoos]

Hey DM, come 'round for a beer mate. I've got 6 or 7 stories about NZ motorcycle racing being rife with corruption and political BS.

don't forget to mention...that he has to bring the beers??

[sAsLEX]

anyone with an ounce of grey matter would know that the drag race to the first corners is going to end in tears, and it did, eight sidecars plied up.

The more experienced racers shouldn't be lead into a first corner pile up if they have any sense. If they are in fact quicker they can bide their time and pass through out the rest of the course once the first few corners are cleared.

[Fatjim]

Trashy, were are your balls mate. No point bitching and crying like a 5 year old now. You should have have your hissy fit and thrown your toys out the pram on the starting grid like a real man!

[Drew]

Trashy, were are your balls mate. No point bitching and crying like a 5 year old now. You should have have your hissy fit and thrown your toys out the pram on the starting grid like a real man!

I know I would have stepped off my bike and lay it on the track, then threatened the first marshal with serious bodily harm if they touched it, (not that I can back that up), but the grown up thing to do is exactly what the people wronged did.