Kevmo and Dan 12 o clock vid!

**Bikernereid** · 14th January 2008, 21:24

I am going to defend skaters too. Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice tricks whereever they can find rails etc. At the end of the day if they are keeping themselves occupied perfecting thier art at least they aint out mugging old grannies!!

Originally Posted by R6_kid

On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport. I can use a skateboard to commute if i so wish, or I can use it to do tricks etc. If i do my tricks and stunts in a place that pisses people off then i am a dick, if i do my best to take it out of their way then at least I'm trying to please the majority.

**dipshit** · 14th January 2008, 21:30

Originally Posted by R6_kid

I thought it was a know me before you judge me thing. And too be honest, the number of people on bikes I see doing wheelies is about 2% of the total biker population.

But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

**Kevmo7** · 14th January 2008, 21:33

Originally Posted by dipshit

But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

**Bikernereid** · 14th January 2008, 21:39

Not all the geeks at school are dicks now!!!!!!! Some of us actuall have taste and like flash boys with cool toys- OWNER!

Originally Posted by Kevmo7

were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

**R6_kid:Me** · 14th January 2008, 21:41

Originally Posted by dipshit

But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

Actually I encourage Kev to ride responsibly to 'the spot' but then he is 17...

You're making a far greater deal out of this than actually exists.

I totally encourage safe riding on the road, and in the public eye, i dont condone being a fucking nanna and bagging on people who are doing what they enjoy in a place that is private as they can currently find.

Why not be proactive and try to find them a spot to do their thing out of the public eye?

**sAsLEX** · 14th January 2008, 21:41

Originally Posted by Kevmo7

were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

Hmmm, Maybe you will work for someone like that one day....... whats the saying?

oh thats right...... Revenge is a dish best served cold.

**Chrislost** · 14th January 2008, 21:42

Originally Posted by dipshit

And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???

are you trying to call us retards that dont know throttle control?
you may just find that at one stage or another some of us even held/hold race licences/ holy fuck even raced!

or saying that other people will be silly enough to highside because a video was put up on the innernet with some wheelies on?

i think your mistaken.
must be the same thing that made you pick matching bike/gear.

**dipshit** · 14th January 2008, 21:45

Originally Posted by R6_kid

On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport.

Except that no extreme sport belongs to be played on public roads. If the law cottons on to it, they could come down so hard.

Then we would see a bunch of cry-baby wankers on KB pissing and moaning about being suppressed and the "stupid fucking cops" and on and on and on... dumb fucks they are.

**cowboyz** · 14th January 2008, 21:46

Originally Posted by dipshit

And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???

Above all else this is a stunt forum. Are you also going into the racing forum and telling people not to get their knee down or exceed 100km/hr on the track? What about the Street races or Hillclimbs? Are you suggesting that after the Boxing day racing seeing bikes running round a road circuit at 200km/hr that every biker aspires to doing 200km/hr in the middle of Wanganui? What about the dirt forum? You going over there to have a go at some guys Rooster tailing because it leaves a bad impression and the up and coming riders might want to repeat what they see on a public park?

Originally Posted by R6_kid

One is at high speed, one is at 30kmph...
One road has traffic at 70mph, one has very little or no traffic and the riders are courteous to other road users when they appear.
One shows some guys explicitly showing off on the motorway, the other shows two guys practicing their sport so they can perform at sanctioned events.

I don't deny that some won't show off in front of others... isnt that what you see at air shows... pilots showing off their skills. The only difference is dan and kevmo aren't currently practicing in a legal environment, but it's still the safest place they've found yet.

You also left out they had spotters for traffic with the wheelie over the crest.

Originally Posted by dipshit

If you are riding like a wanker on public streets, and making all motorcyclists look like irresponsible dickheds in the eyes of the public and the law... then it matters to me.

If you are doing this in specially arranged closed areas and events, then fine, I could not care less.

There is a big difference.

Specifically arranging closed areas is alot of red tape due to those who believe that stunting is inherrintely bad and certain death. Much much easier to arrange a group of guys to watch out and find a seldom used backstreet that is wide enough for things to go a little haywire and smooth enough to stunt on.

Originally Posted by dipshit

But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

So what did happen to personal responibility? Did he leave with common sense and lock the door on the way out? Stunting has always been cool. There are riders who simply think it is cool but dont want to do it for various reasons including not breaking their bikes/bones and there are riders who think its cool and want to give it a go. At the end of the day you cant afford to stunt a bike you cant afford to drop, same goes for racing.

And then there are those who simply dont like stunting and want everyone to ride round at the legal speed limit nice and safe. In their spare time they are known to surf stunt forums and talk shit about how bad stunting is.

**nodrog:Me** · 14th January 2008, 21:46

FFS you fuckers should just have a scrap, make sure you get it on video

**cowboyz** · 14th January 2008, 21:49

Originally Posted by dipshit

Except that no extreme sport belongs to be played on public roads. If the law cottons on to it, they could come down so hard.

Then we would see a bunch of cry-baby wankers on KB pissing and moaning about being suppressed and the "stupid fucking cops" and on and on and on... dumb fucks they are.

oh, and while I am at it.

What you are saying is that one shouldn't stunt on any public roads because if they do then the law will clamp down and they will not be able to stunt on public roads?
So if they dont stunt on public roads then the law will not clamp down on it and they will be allowed to stunt on public roads?

Do you read what you type or do you just make shit up as you go along?

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**dipshit** · 14th January 2008, 21:53

Originally Posted by Chrislost

are you trying to call us retards that dont know throttle control?

No, I was saying that is the only difference between those two videos.

you may just find that at one stage or another some of us even held/hold race licences/ holy fuck even raced!

So? And I haven't? You think that because I'm not impressed with your "amazing stuntting skills" that I can't ride a bike? You equate your circus tricks with road riding skills?