View Poll Results: Should learners drivers in CARS have a HP limit?

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Thread: If its a Honda, I'll ride it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda
    Cheers Joni, not as quick as yours. But I'm over the need for speed (well almost!)
    ummm... Joni we are talking bout the Blackbird arnt we?
    and welcome to KB Jase
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous
    ummm... Joni we are talking bout the Blackbird arnt we?
    and welcome to KB Jase
    Yeah we were.... I was just being polite.

    Strange for a girl to say, but Im a big blackbird fan.... a friend of mine bought one, I rode it & loved it.... wish I was taller and the damn thing was not so heavy... someone told me abour 270kg's dont know how true it is, hey let me look that up in fact, always wondered...

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    Yup a heavy bugga.... dry weight 223kg's.... how much would it be with all the liquids in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joni
    Yup a heavy bugga.... dry weight 223kg's.... how much would it be with all the liquids in?
    Quarter of a tonne

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    Arrow Blackbird? Heavy? Polite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joni
    Yeah we were.... I was just being polite.

    Strange for a girl to say, but Im a big blackbird fan.... a friend of mine bought one, I rode it & loved it.... wish I was taller and the damn thing was not so heavy... someone told me abour 270kg's dont know how true it is, hey let me look that up in fact, always wondered...
    I thought a VFR NC30 was pretty light and easy to throw around, my have been the adrenaline of snotting it? Oh I see now with the help of google, they are two different bikes, the NC30 & the NC30 Blackbird. I rode the straight NC30, what a rush! The Interceptor was better, but thats another story
    Like I said its quicker than my CB, or should be. Does weigh more apparently.
    Honda CB400SF 1992
    "Super Four"
    Engine
    Type: 4 cylinder DOHC. In-line liquid cooled 4 valves per cylinder(NC23E)
    Capacity: 399cc
    Bore x Stroke: 55mm x 42mm
    Transmission: six speed with chain final drive
    Exhaust System: 4 into 1
    Performance
    Power Output: 52 BHP / 11000rpm
    Torque: 30ft.lb. (4kgm) @ 9500 rpm
    Top Speed: 105 mph (restrictor fitted)
    Fuel Consumption: 45-55mpg
    Rolling Chassis
    Frame Type: Tubular steel cradle frame(NC31)
    Front Tyre: 110/70/ x 17
    Rear Tyre: 140/70/ x 17
    Front Brakes: 2 x 298mm discs, twin piston calipers
    Rear Brake: 1 x 220mm disc
    Front Suspension: 41mm telescopic forks
    Rear Suspension: Twin Showa remote reservoir shocks with 5 step preload adjustment
    Dimensions & Capacities
    Dry Weight: 173Kg. / 381 lbs.
    Kerb Weight: 188Kg / 414.5 lbs
    Fuel capacity: 15 litre + 2 litre Reserve
    Seat Height: 760 mm
    Wheelbase: 1,415 mm
    Length: 2,050 mm
    Width: 725 mm
    Height: 1,070 mm
    Ground Clearance: 130 mm
    Still would expect an NC30 to go quicker, or is it just me?
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    Arrow Model VFR 400R NC30

    Make Honda
    Year 1989 - 1993
    Model VFR 400R NC30
    Engine V4, 4 stroke
    Displacement 398 cc
    Bore/Stroke -
    Compression -
    Top speed 230km/h
    Torque 4.0kgm @ 10,000rpm
    Horsepower 59 hp @ 12,500rpm
    Ignition -
    Weight 164 kg
    Fuel system -
    Gearbox 6 speed
    Frame -
    Clutch -
    Suspension travel (f.) -
    Suspension travel (r.) -
    Front brakes -
    Front brakes (dim.) -
    Rear brakes -
    Rear brakes (dim.) -
    Front tyre (dim.) 120/60 ZR 17
    Rear tyre (dim.) 150/60 ZR18
    Fuel tank capacity -
    Reserve tank -
    Seat height -
    Wheelbase 1,345 mm.
    Width 705 mm.
    Height 1,075 mm.
    Length 1,985 mm.

    Can't find the specs for the Blackbird. Joni have you got a manual for it?

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    Dude I have a nice write up, done when the Hayabusa "took over" as the fastest bike round... it was done a couple of years ago, with specs of both bikes... will find it for ya and show ya your NC30 is gonna be left cold with these 2 boys!

    Phenominal bike that blackbird....

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    Arrow Yea but

    Quote Originally Posted by Joni
    Dude I have a nice write up, done when the Hayabusa "took over" as the fastest bike round... it was done a couple of years ago, with specs of both bikes... will find it for ya and show ya your NC30 is gonna be left cold with these 2 boys!

    Phenominal bike that blackbird....

    Thats like comparing a Ducati to a Britten...

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    Well well well

    No I used to hate hondas to be honest. Then i got a GB - man those bikes were underated, if you rid it of the shit suspension and exhaust. Change the cam. And run it on avgas - of course
    They fly round town faster than most bikes.
    If they had a 6th gear they would be the most universal bikes. Mine would beg me to change gear while sitting at 160ks on the open road.
    New CBR600/1000s look good though. But im still not a honda fan - all the new ones sound like powerdrills (even the cruisers).
    Often theyre cams are louder than the pipes.
    I acutally found suzys to be more reliable too
    But dont listen to me cos im a fussy prick
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    Welcome Honda. Lots of Trolls here, shit stiring is is common practice

    On a serious note, I love all of the bikes I've owned so far (OK big deal, only four so far). Was hooked on Suzuki (1980 GSX250 and "Little Black Beauty" the 1991 GSXR250, which was a bloody good little bike) until I owned my first Honda. Still miss "Veronnica" the 1991 VFR750. F*cken good allround road bike. Has taken some time to get used to "Roxanne" the CBR1000FL (my pressent bike), but she is just the bomb for touring and two-up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joni
    Dude I have a nice write up, done when the Hayabusa "took over" as the fastest bike round... it was done a couple of years ago, with specs of both bikes... will find it for ya and show ya your NC30 is gonna be left cold with these 2 boys!

    Phenominal bike that blackbird....
    specs arent worth shit against the people riding it, and how its ridden - otherwise everyone would bow down to the munch mammut, and the Rocket III. Let alone the holeshot busa. I remember a guy at paeroa 1 year pissing over everone (including R1's etc) on a honda RS125
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    Arrow Ah but that makes us unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas
    No I used to hate hondas to be honest. Then i got a GB - man those bikes were underated, if you rid it of the shit suspension and exhaust. Change the cam. And run it on avgas - of course
    They fly round town faster than most bikes.
    If they had a 6th gear they would be the most universal bikes. Mine would beg me to change gear while sitting at 160ks on the open road.
    New CBR600/1000s look good though. But im still not a honda fan - all the new ones sound like powerdrills (even the cruisers).
    Often theyre cams are louder than the pipes.
    I acutally found suzys to be more reliable too
    But dont listen to me cos im a fussy prick
    I'd rather be a fussy prick than a sheep within the flock.
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    Arrow The funny thing is.

    I'm the same, like most bikes, just prefer Honda and had much more of them. In NP Kawasaki and Suzuki charged hideous prices for parts, them gone. My RD250 never broke down and once Ash made a welcomed exit Honda parts where cheap as. Maybe I should have named this thread "If its a Honda, I'll own it!" As I'm more than happy to ride others, but dunno about riding another HD
    Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas
    specs arent worth shit against the people riding it, and how its ridden - otherwise everyone would bow down to the munch mammut, and the Rocket III. Let alone the holeshot busa. I remember a guy at paeroa 1 year pissing over everone (including R1's etc) on a honda RS125
    I agree with you... but if a professional shoot out is done with world class riders... its in a different class to some guy on a 125 @ paeroa.... and it makes for interesting reading.

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas
    I acutally found suzys to be more reliable too
    Although this one is a very ummm interesting statement for me...


    But as I say each man to himself, right?


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    Arrow Just out of interest.

    I found a 1998 CB1 workshop manual along with the service and owneres manual on PDF format while doing night shift. I downloaded em as the engine apparently is the same as the CB400SF. If anyone would like a copy for their own usage, feel free to ask.
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