Roll on the 10th December Smokefree bars

[Paul in NZ]

That's a brilliant idea....I've been trying to think of a name, for a bar that sponsors and shows bike races, without actually being a 'biker' bar.

The Open, I like that

Careful! The place will be full of bloody golfers

[Hitcher]

That's a brilliant idea....I've been trying to think of a name, for a bar that sponsors and shows bike races, without actually being a 'biker' bar.
The Open, I like that.

How about "Highsiders"?

[Paul in NZ]

Eh? Surely you must see that something has to be done by a 'global majority' in order for it to be 'global'? How can something be a global trend if only a minority of the world pariticipates? Global means the same as world-wide, does it not? If the trend is seen by mostly anglo-saxon countires, then surely it is a mostly anglo-saxon trend?

Not really. If something is moving from one state of being in a certain consistent direction then it can be said to be trending in that direction.....

The places you mentioned a scattered all over the globe thus it can legitimately be said to be a global trend. A trend does not imply a majority.

ie A summer fashion trend towards shorter skirts is a legitimate statement but does not imply a majority are wearing short skirts. It assumes that we are refering to women of a certain age group but it does not need to be expressly detailed.

Anyway. Who cares what we say here. The legislation is passed.... if you violently disagree do something about it in the appropriate manner....

Paul N

[bluninja]

Eh? Surely you must see that something has to be done by a 'global majority' in order for it to be 'global'? How can something be a global trend if only a minority of the world pariticipates? Global means the same as world-wide, does it not? If the trend is seen by mostly anglo-saxon countires, then surely it is a mostly anglo-saxon trend?

I was tempted to reply with more pedantry....but hey; there is a trend...how big that trend is in each country...who knows...or indeed if there is a trend away from accepting passive smoking (have I moved the goal posts here?) in the majority of countries, surface area of the world, or worldwide population to make my 'global' claim proven, non floccus paucus.

BTW I wouldn't want to compete with your 6 weeks of European adventures (cue pissing contest ) but I have spent time (holiday and working) in Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Sicily, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Austria, Gibraltar, Canary Isles, and Crete.

[Slipstream]

Careful! The place will be full of bloody golfers

As long as they're as rich and cute as Tiger Woods and as classy as Happy Gilmore They can stay. Golfers are people too....I think I mean come on! Who thought of plus 4's anyways?

[Slipstream]

How about "Highsiders"?

That's Ok, but wouldn't that imply crashing and/or being ?

I could name it something Ghey like 'The Quarter Mile', or 'Torque' or how bout 'Biker Barn' ooh ooh I know I know, how about .... 'The Dancing Banana' I could have a moving neon sign next to the name

....um....yeah....

Seriously, I am thinking of owning a bar/pub within the next 5 years, pending on the bar situation in Wellington and passing my Degree.
I have a secret little notebook (which is now not secret) which has all my notes about what my bar will have and be like. Still haven't thought of a name and therefore no icon to go with it. Maybe I'll call it 'The Bar With No Name' .

[F5 Dave]

[to the tune of some poxy 70s American song] ‘I got pissed in the city in a bar with no name. . .’

[bluninja]

It felt good to be out of the rain
In the city you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no smokers for to give you no pain

[Drunken Monkey]

Not really. If something is moving from one state of being in a certain consistent direction then it can be said to be trending in that direction.....

The places you mentioned a scattered all over the globe thus it can legitimately be said to be a global trend. A trend does not imply a majority.

ie A summer fashion trend towards shorter skirts is a legitimate statement but does not imply a majority are wearing short skirts. It assumes that we are refering to women of a certain age group but it does not need to be expressly detailed.

I be convinced by that explaination. Fair example.

Anyway. Who cares what we say here. The legislation is passed.... if you violently disagree do something about it in the appropriate manner....

Paul N

Like I said, my interest is purely academic.

[Drunken Monkey]

I was tempted to reply with more pedantry....but hey; there is a trend...how big that trend is in each country...who knows...or indeed if there is a trend away from accepting passive smoking (have I moved the goal posts here?) in the majority of countries, surface area of the world, or worldwide population to make my 'global' claim proven, non floccus paucus. :

I didn't question that it was a trend, I don't beleive that enough of the world is moving that way yet to qualify it as 'global'. In a few years time, maybe.

BTW I wouldn't want to compete with your 6 weeks of European adventures (cue pissing contest ) but I have spent time (holiday and working) in Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Sicily, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Austria, Gibraltar, Canary Isles, and Crete.

Easy tiger, no-one's pissin on anyone here (I stand corrected - you appear to be trying to piss on me)...Those are the experiences I was asking anyone to call on - I know my experience in Europe is limited, hence the question. I never professed to be a well travelled anthropological expert of Europe! So you've established yourself as a man of the 'globe' - I would like you to share your 'smoking/smokers in pubs/clubs/restaurants/cafes experience' with us for each of those countries!

[bluninja]

Easy tiger, no-one's pissin on anyone here (I stand corrected - you appear to be trying to piss on me)...Those are the experiences I was asking anyone to call on - I know my experience in Europe is limited, hence the question. I never professed to be a well travelled anthropological expert of Europe! So you've established yourself as a man of the 'globe' - I would like you to share your 'smoking/smokers in pubs/clubs/restaurants/cafes experience' with us for each of those countries!

Perhaps when I write my memoirs I would say that the Parisiens could give some english a lesson in arrogance. They smoke where they want, when they want, regardless of the laws brought in a few years ago. They also block the roads and set fire to things in the street if they get upset with any changes the government tries to impose that they don't like.

BTW the pissing contest was in jest.....I just signposted it rather than have somebody accuse me....and I have been getting around I guess for a little longer than you....oh and I forgot Eire.....were you can now get smoke free guiness served at your table

[Blakamin]

They smoke where they want, when they want, regardless of the laws brought in a few years ago. They also block the roads and set fire to things in the street if they get upset with any changes the government tries to impose that they don't like.
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Coool.... I'm part french...time to go to the beehive, smoke a packet of rollies and burn some shit to the ground.... I hate everything the politicians are doing!

[inlinefour]

I am SO looking forward to going out without having to ingest copious carcinogenic fumes at the same time.

Your clothes won’t stink, either will your girlfriend’s hair.

Cafés Restaurants etc will be great. I really hate when you arrive for a meal & you are just cracking into the starter when some inconsiderate fcker decides you are going to have a smoke whether you like it or not.


To paraphrase; It’s all good.

I expect a barrage of abuse from the hard of thinking about freedom of choice, but these people usually ignore the freedom of those who don’t want to smoke & either have to put up or not go out.

Or the barstaff/waiters trying to put themselves through university.

Also the ventilation argument has been quashed as it has been shown to remove the smoke but not the carcinogens.

Time for a KB night out in December?

Too many farkin arseholes think its their right to polute the air around non smokers without a thought hooooooooooraaaaaaaaa!!

[Vagabond]

Too many farkin arseholes think its their right to polute the air around non smokers without a thought hooooooooooraaaaaaaaa!!

Your type should just lock yourselves up in the house and never venture outside

[Blakamin]

Too many farkin arseholes think its their right to polute the air around non smokers without a thought hooooooooooraaaaaaaaa!!

Without a thought?? I normally think of others, but now you call me a "farkin arsehole" next time i'll make a point of being thoughtless

[edit] and while it's legal, it IS my right to smoke...