Roll on the 10th December Smokefree bars

[Devil]

love to see you try that in an RSA on anzac day!

Well I dont think theres any chance of that happening as:
1) I dont visit RSA's
2) I'm guessing a level of discretion could appear here.

[Devil]

They are probably the same ones that sit outside the entrance to my work underneath and facing the no smoking signs, filling the whole entrance corridor with smoke so that asthmatic non-smokers like myself have to walk through it everytime I go to work.

That really rips my undies.

Same! I hate it! Then you have to put up with an elevator ride with them.
Dont get me started about all the damn cigarette butts everywhere.

[Ghost Lemur]

I'm glad you're so open-minded. Next time you're up in Auckland, let me know, and I'll pop over to your restaurant table and wank off into your wine glass.

I don't remember ever mentioning that I smoke in restaurants (the once a year I manage to get to one). As a matter of fact, I don't.

As I said I don't go out often enough for it to bother me. I am sad though that a small (sensible) clause wasn't put in for Cigar bars, Gentlemens clubs, etc. Somewhere where a smoker can go, enjoy a drink and a cigar, game of pool, whatever. But no,no comprimises.

Question: If everyone hates smoking in bars so much, why aren't there more non-smoking bars? One would assume if there was a large market for this then someone would already be taping it for all it's worth.

[Devil]

I don't remember ever mentioning that I smoke in restaurants (the once a year I manage to get to one). As a matter of fact, I don't.

As I said I don't go out often enough for it to bother me. I am sad though that a small (sensible) clause wasn't put in for Cigar bars, Gentlemens clubs, etc. Somewhere where a smoker can go, enjoy a drink and a cigar, game of pool, whatever. But no,no comprimises.

Question: If everyone hates smoking in bars so much, why aren't there more non-smoking bars? One would assume if there was a large market for this then someone would already be taping it for all it's worth.

Because it could quite easily have turned into commercial suicide.

regarding Cigar bars and things, if they made exemptions, where would you draw the line? Im glad they've done a blanket sort of ban.

[Motu]

I hate coming home with my clothes and what's left of my hair smelling of someone elses cigarette smoke,it's one of the main reasons I don't go out to these places.I find cigarette smokers such ignorant inconsiderate people,they will smoke right in your face,in your home and car,flick their buts out the window and anywhere else they like.I like it when they feel all guilty,then extinguish their smoke in one of my glasses,or grind their butt into my workshop floor.

[Paul in NZ]

I hate coming home with my clothes and what's left of my hair smelling of someone elses cigarette smoke,it's one of the main reasons I don't go out to these places.I find cigarette smokers such ignorant inconsiderate people,they will smoke right in your face,in your home and car,flick their buts out the window and anywhere else they like.I like it when they feel all guilty,them extinguish their smoke in one of my glasses,or grind their but into my workshop floor.

Go out with WT one night.

You will be glad you have any clothes left, regardless of what they smell like...

[Blakamin]

Because it could quite easily have turned into commercial suicide.

reckon this law will be commercial suicide... i get to speak to bar owners/managers a fair bit at work...and they're shittin bricks!

[Deano]

reckon this law will be commercial suicide... i get to speak to bar owners/managers a fair bit at work...and they're shittin bricks!

How are the bars going in Oz - ten years of no smoking should be enough of a trial and they are still operating ?

A cigar bar can still operate, providing its got no roof - pretty hard playing pool in the rain but oh well...shit happens.

I will be using 10 Dec as a start point to give up.....again.

The sooner all tobacco companies are sued into non existance the better I say.

Can anyone name another product that is hazardous to your health while having no beneficial effects or useful purpose (apart from stopping the craving cause your addicted) ?

[Blakamin]

How are the bars going in Oz - ten years of no smoking should be enough of a trial and they are still operating ?

A cigar bar can still operate, providing its got no roof - pretty hard playing pool in the rain but oh well...shit happens.

I will be using 10 Dec as a start point to give up.....again.

The sooner all tobacco companies are sued into non existance the better I say.

Can anyone name another product that is hazardous to your health while having no beneficial effects or useful purpose (apart from stopping the craving cause your addicted) ?

they didnt ban it in bars.... just restaraunts and cafes... they tried for bars but the hotel industry told the govt where to stick it!


and we can supply outdoor pool tables

[R6_kid:Me]

yay i can go to the pool bar and return home without looking like i smoked a few packs. This will also stop the under agers (13-15yr olds) from going there mainly to smoke... so now wen a girl looks like shes 16, shes probably gonna be 16 :cool2:

[Slipstream]

I would actually like to know what it is non-smokers really have a problem with? And I'm not about to rag on non-smokers (You're doing a good job not smoking. Keep it up ). But, is the main problem the smoke and smell, or is it the fact that you are passive smoking and getting the naughty toxins into your bodies?

Be honest now.

I have asked this of most of my friends and I tell you, only 1 couple were actually worried about the toxins.

Following on this course of information, I still cannot fathom why the government didn't impose a set of standards instead.
For example: extractor fans that pass a certain extraction of smoke/litre of air or whatever. Or an area outside where you don't have to walk past to get inside, loos etc, with a smoking outside only policy.

I mean this will only help out with smoke and smell, it won't help with the toxins which will still be floating around.

I'm wondering when there's going to be an alcohol ban. I wanna complain about all the people that smell bad when they've been drinking and their behaviour on the streets after a few. I wanna complain that they sing bad and they aren't god's gift and they should take off their beer goggles, cos that ain't Rachel Hunter over there giving them the glad eye.
Why should we rely on the bar staff, police or the Sale of Liquor Act to make people follow the rules. Lets just ban alcohol.

You may think that I'm being silly, but I really don't know what the government was thinking.


But I'll ask again.

What do the non-smokers really have a problem with, the smoke and smell, or the invisible toxins?


BTW I am trying to quit the naughty toxins and maybe this ban will help

[erik]

I would actually like to know what it is non-smokers really have a problem with? And I'm not about to rag on non-smokers (You're doing a good job not smoking. Keep it up ). But, is the main problem the smoke and smell, or is it the fact that you are passive smoking and getting the naughty toxins into your bodies?

Kinda both. I mean, some cigarettes don't smell so bad, but there are others that are pretty bad. I think I could put up with the smell if I knew it was harmless, but because I know it's dangerous, I dislike it more. So yeah: both.

But really it doesn't matter that much to me since I don't get out much...

[Storm]

Cigarettes stink, and they will screw your health up and quite possibly do for you in the end, thus, I want no part of them.

[Slipstream]

Kinda both. I mean, some cigarettes don't smell so bad, but there are others that are pretty bad.

Personally, I detest cigar smoke. It smells foul to me. But I think it's the smell of general smokiness.
Although I find smoke machines from dance parties to smell bad too.
When I was a Non-Smoker (started at 20) I was completely anti-smoking. Worked in a bar and hated the smell of my clothes after I had a shower. Hated having to buy 'clear eyes' to relieve my eyes of pain while working.

But you know, it wasn't the fact that I was surrounded by smoke all the time that I started to smoke. Or the stress. It was for a really dumb reason. Bar staff who smoked, got more and longer breaks than I did (being the only non-smoker). I also found that to be pretty true anywhere I've worked, where the boss smokes. Or where everyone but the boss smokes and then it's a whole cover up thing. 'I'll cover for you first, then you for me. K?'

Smoking is just another legal drug that takes the edge off the monotony of life sometimes.

[Wonko]

For me personally it's the smell,