Countersteering

[Lou Girardin]

I think you're confusing outright speed with looking good. It's soooo much cooler to hang off the bike. And we all know that "cool" adds 30km/h to any cornering speed.

Until you get passed on the outside of a corner by some Grandad who doesn't know how to hang off, just ride fast.

[Pixie]

A few on KB at the mo. Seems getting one knee down is
more important than learning to counter steer properly these days.

I was amused a all the "hanging off" that was going on on a recent KB ride,Funny,they didn't seem to be going around the bends as fast as the bandit though.

[roogazza]

Until you get passed on the outside of a corner by some Grandad who doesn't know how to hang off, just ride fast.

heh heh heh good one ! I think it's a Bandit thing too !!!! G.

[Bonez]

heh heh heh good one ! I think it's a Bandit thing too !!!! G.

Hmmm Phil Turnbill have just dropped the price on a s/h naked 01 one, I think it is, with 52,000 up Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[XP@]

How do you counter-steer for a corner? Do you lean first in the direction you want to turn then push on the handle bars in the opposite direction or is it vice-versa. Must one overcome the fear of falling from grace or just put some balls on and go. How low can you lean, how low should you lean.
Is it best to hang off the bike when you lean into a corner?

Hmmm

You will cover this in your lessons (which you will be taking won't you!). As I have recently been shown having an instructor show you exactly where to position your arms, knees, bum and head.

You can lean all the way over so that feet, pegs and possibly other bits are touching. Is that advisable, not really under normal road conditions.
You should be able to stop within the distance you can see and stopping quickly whilst cranked over is not easy, it eats up too much traction.

[CPB]

Use the most excellent "search" facility to check out all of the old offerings on countersteering.

I am amazed as to how many motorcyclists are unaware of this phenomenum. Demonstrate it to yourself at low speeds by pushing forwards on each grip in turn and observing how the bike turns in the direction you're pushing. This is countersteering at its simplest. The actual physics themselves are more complicated to explain. So I won't. Use this technique to practice weaving amongst catseyes on the road (when you've got no oncoming traffic, otherwise you may put the shits up a few cagers). Start at about 30kmh and increase your speed steadily as you gain confidence.

Just keep an eye out for the sheriff factor...they often have a problem with the "i was conducting counter steering practice" excuse...

[FROSTY:Me]

You'll hear other riders going on about countersteering and what it does.
Dunno about you lot but egghead types going on about gyro this or that gives me a headache.
Do ya really want to know what countersteerings all about?
Find a long straight quiet bit of road.
Ride up and down it slowly to make sure its clear of hazards.
Now staying towards the middle ride up the road at 50km/h. Pull back on the left bar and push on the right bar gently. -so you are turning the front wheel to the LEFT
Now do the same again this time pull the right bar and push the left. so turning the wheel to the right
Which direction did the bike turn?
Congratulations you now know about countersteering -easy innnit ?

[007XX]

Countersteering absolutely rocks Please practice it as it is one of the most usefull tools there is!

[Disco Dan]

Then do the same thing but at 20kmph.... hehehehehe

[Hitcher]

The site's most excellent search facility using the word "countersteering" will reveal a myriad of most useful information and tips on this subject.

[DMNTD:Me]

Countersteering absolutely rocks Please practice it as it is one of the mist usefull tools there is!

Along with kissing your mirrors eh

[Luckylegs]

The site's most excellent search facility using the word "countersteering" will reveal a myriad of most useful information and tips on this subject.

...But not as many as you'd find doing a search for "search facility"....

[007XX]

Along with kissing your mirrors eh

Yes, my teacher...

That'd have to be #1 on my list...

[Luckylegs]

...and push on the right bar gently. -so you are turning the front wheel to the LEFT
Now do the same again this time pull the right bar and push the left. so turning the wheel to the right

...But, but... but, i cant push the bar forward... I can push it down but not forward ????? WTF ?

Along with kissing your mirrors eh

....With tongue in and eyes open !

[ArcherWC]

I want to know how people get around without counterstearing, it should just come naturally to anyone on two wheels