Ladies'-only scooter training days

[EssGee]

Have you just bought a scooter? Or maybe you're thinking about buying one? Then come along and spend a few hours getting to know all about scootering with our team of experienced instructors in a safe environment. You can use your own scooter or one of ours. Lunch provided. $99.00 per person inc gst.

To be held at the Auckland Kart Club, Rosebank Road, Avondale.

Please email dione@triumphnz.co.nz for a registration form and more details

Dates are:

Sunday 10 February
Sunday 2 March
Sunday 13 April

[Grub]

Ladies Only Scooter Training Days

Have you just bought a scooter? ... {snip} ...

You cannot, in law, have a Ladies-only anything. You are a commercial operation. Your post has been copied to the Human Rights Commission in the form of a complaint.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You cannot, in law, have a Ladies-only anything. You are a commercial operation. Your post has been copied to the Human Rights Commission in the form of a complaint.

nice! I was on the verge of taking you seriously..............


nearly got me.

[ital916]

why ladies only? Just curious.

[motorbyclist]

hold on, did you say ladies with bikes?

[EssGee]

The reason for it being ladies only is that some women feel easily intimidated, so we are endeavouring to provide a safe, friendly environment for the training day. No offence guys, if you feel you need some training I am sure we can put something on for you.

[ital916]

Maybe those women need to HTFU lol just jokes esgee. On a more serious note though, do you also provide classes for basic handling for women on motorcycles? Or just scooters?

[EssGee]

We don't do training on motorcycles, but AMCC have rider training days that cater for all classes. There are more details on their website www.amcc.co.nz

[Squiggles]

some women feel easily intimidated

Lifes tough baby, get a helmet

[Grub]

The reason for it being ladies only is that some women feel easily intimidated, so we are endeavouring to provide a safe, friendly environment for the training day. No offence guys ....

Offence taken. That's just the attitude the Human Rights Act was enacted to shut down.

[ital916]

I reckon it is a little *a lot* unfair *after pondering it for two days* to say women get intimidated so we'll hold women only classes as i'm sure some guys too feel intimidated when first learning to ride. But it would just illicit the response that i'm an uncaring guy. Lol like squiggles said get a helmet....an HTFU.

[Hanne]

i'm sure some guys too feel intimidated when first learning to ride.

I think that learning to ride and finding it intimidating/ scary/ challenging at first has much more to do with personality and previous experiences etc, ie the INDIVIDUAL than it does with gender.

Ok, I can see where this idea is coming from. In my experience there are many more male riders than female riders (when it comes to motorcycles, anyway... scooters are perhaps a different story). Women new to bikes might find the gender balance different to that that they face in other areas of life, and one way to read 'different' is to feel intimidated.

I see no problem with mentoring systems, but surely they should be extended to all of those wishing to benefit from them.

A supportive environment to learn in is beneficial to both men and women. It is far better to offer such an environment than to send illequipped/ inexperienced riders in out of their depth and expect them to cope just because they are male and should therefore somehow be hardwired to 'deal with it' and survive every time a new, potentially dangerous, situation occurs.

Personally, I have never felt intimidated (neither by my bike nor those I ride with), but I was fortunate to have capable mentors, and Dushy makes a valid point. Open these things up to everyone and then promote organisations such as WIMA, which have a specific interest in women who ride and will be able to help with networking etc., to those who are interested. Then everyone wins.

[Squiggles]

I think that learning to ride and finding it intimidating/ scary/ challenging at first has much more to do with personality and previous experiences etc,.............................................. ........... Then everyone wins.

Vote Hanne for first lady?

[Macstar]

My two cents:

I used to get pissed off at UOA cause I'd get regular and unblockable emails informing me of the Tutakana programme which I couldn't attend, (free tuition and support network for black people only). I understand the programmes' need and purpose but imagine what the reaction would be if there was a white-only tutoring programme...

Anyway, now I'm going to contradict myself and say this:

We all know what the average/typical teenage male learner rider is like: everything to prove... put him in front of girls and it gets worse!

I say do what you want girls, but maybe offer a mixed one at the same time incase there are male scooter learners that are keen too.

[MGST]

Well here's one for you. There's a guy that I work with. He's a bit of a lowlife and not made of money so I try and help him out with advice etc where I can. I have been trying to get him to try a scooter from a hire shop to see if he likes it and reacons he could ride it to work from Henderson each day, thereby saving $1000 parking each year plus petrol etc. I also told him riderskills.co.nz does a get-you-started scotter course for 80 notes. But there is no way he will entertain that idea on the off chance that there might be some females on the course too ( this guy is 50 remember ). He would rather tough it out and learn the hard way ( by himself and binning etc ) than take a course coz a girl might be there and may catch on quicker than him. WTF? Sometimes he makes my head hurt!