Perfectly acceptable or a little rude?

**White trash** · 26th January 2008, 09:36

Here's a poll without predjudice.

Is it ok to approach a sponsor already heavily involved with a race team and hit them up to sponsor yourself? Including the insinuation that you'd perhaps gain better results for the sponsor than their current rider?

What'd ya reckon?

Give us some reasons either way too.

Ta

**Pussy** · 26th January 2008, 09:40

Originally Posted by White trash

Here's a poll without predjudice.

Is it ok to approach a sponsor already heavily involved with a race team and hit them up to sponsor yourself? Including the insinuation that you'd perhaps gain better results for the sponsor than their current rider?

What'd ya reckon?

Give us some reasons either way too.

Ta

I don't think that would be unethical at all, especially if you can deliver the goods. Sponsorship is an investment by the sponsor, not a gift

**White trash** · 26th January 2008, 09:45

That is of course assuming that the sponsors are actually after results for their investment, Pussy. Some are in it for completely different reasons.

**DEATH_INC.** · 26th January 2008, 09:52

I voted no, but I tend to agree with the above....sponsership is business (advertising) so I guess if you think you can do a better job at advertising their product.....
It really depends on the situation too, like is it 'do you want another bike in your team', or is it 'i can do a better job' type thing.
Also, I wouldn't do it to someone I knew without talking to them first....

**Joni** · 26th January 2008, 09:54

I suppose that everyone runs on a different sets of morals babe...

They see a company that has sponsored before and they think it would be easier to break in there than have to go from scatch and they jump in....

Not everyone is your friend, and will try and undermine you for their benefit.

I for one would never take away from another to benefit myself... so have said its not acceptable in your poll...

**YellowDog** · 26th January 2008, 09:56

Sponsors want better riders and riders want better sponsors.

Any sponsorship would be governed by a contract, so it doesn't mean that someone will be losing out. If sponsors can afford more, then all well and good for the game.

May be some contracts won't get renewed however that's life. Would they get renewed anyway. Nothing has really changed.

**Number One** · 26th January 2008, 09:57

Originally Posted by White trash

That is of course assuming that the sponsors are actually after results for their investment, Pussy. Some are in it for completely different reasons.

key ora cuz!
Being the typical Libran that I am - On the one hand I think it's rude...especially if done in front of said 'existing sponsored rider' with the comment 'I could do better' HOWEVER on the other hand just sounds like Racing to me....does anyone on the track really give a toss about the others on the track? AND I guess sponsors are a bit thin on the ground really so going back to what daddy taught me...'Those who don't ask don't get' and 'you have to be in to win'.
In saying all that I wouldn't be that cheeky but then I'm a nana rider

so chance would be a fine thing of me even having the gumption to approach a sponsor, let alone saying 'I could do better than him/her'. Have a good long weekend dude and Hi from the Sullys!

**Bikernereid** · 26th January 2008, 10:10

'You' are in the sport to win and at the end of the day the better sponsorship 'you' have the easier your job should be. If you are not in racing to do the best you can then what is the point?

I do not think it is wise to go in there assuming 'you' can do better than the other ride, the last thing you want to do is big 'yourself 'up and then look like an ass if things don't go 'your' way.

Having the opportunity to prove 'yourself' can't be a bad thing and maybe if the sponsors can afford to take 'you' on board as well then they have the chance to decide whether they want to keep all riders or just invest more substantially in a certain rider/riders. It is there cash and they should know how they want to spend it.

'you'- not refering to you personally.

**GSVR** · 26th January 2008, 10:12

Anyone who can afford to sponsor motorsport has obviously got to much money. Would be better invested in building bombs and blowing up arabs in Iraq or iconic American buildings depending on who you have the most financial interest in.

War and Peace. Without war we could never achieve peace.

Trying to steal someones sponsor is an act or aggression. You need to get a UN resolution then kill the fucker.

Sorry Whitetrash I'm just having a bad day.

**White trash** · 26th January 2008, 10:15

Originally Posted by Garry H

Anyone who can afford to sponsor motorsport has obviously got to much money. Would be better invested in building bombs and blowing up arabs in Iraq or iconic American buildings depending on who you have the most financial interest in.

War and Peace. Without war we could never achieve peace.

Trying to steal someones sponsor is an act or aggression. You need to get a UN resolution then kill the fucker.

Sorry Whitetrash I'm just having a bad day.

S'allright mate. That's how I felt

**Sully60** · 26th January 2008, 10:16

Hmmm. Perfectly acceptable??
Probably not perfectly acceptable but this is the world of racing in NZ bro.
I don't know the background behind your question but I do know, you know how things seem to work in this country, you know!

Coming at it from the simplistic purely racer oriented approach then yes it's perfectly acceptable.
Half the battle of the racing game is getting the right resources though your exploits off the track so you can get the best result on the track.

Most of the top racers are top blokes as you know, but they're always focused on what they need to do to win, and in that respect all others are irrelevant.

As they said at the start of everyday on Hill Street Blues: “Do it them before they do it to you!”

**justsomeguy** · 26th January 2008, 10:32

Well, it's not unethical but will create bad blood and yes is a little rude.

From a business perspective you're simply offering a potential client a better deal (higher results) than they are currently getting.

Firstly are you sure the management of this sponsor aren't buddies/bum chums with the other racer? Or if they are sponsoring him for any reasons apart from gained publicity.

Isn't there anyone else? This feels like approaching a chick who already is with someone. I voted "No".

**GSVR** · 26th January 2008, 10:41

Thinking a little more on this I wonder who would do such a thing...

This is where internet chatrooms become dangerous places.

**skidMark** · 26th January 2008, 11:14

Originally Posted by Garry H

Thinking a little more on this I wonder who would do such a thing...

This is where internet chatrooms become dangerous places.

it's not a chatroom it's a forum owwww.

**MSTRS:Me** · 26th January 2008, 11:14

I see nothing wrong with making an approach. But I wouldn't say 'I could do better than that other guy'....if potential sponsor is at all keen, then let your prior results speak for themselves.