Perfectly acceptable or a little rude?

[Titanium]

It is all about the money!

A sponsor wants a return on his investment. If you have something to offer then go for gold!

All is fair game.

[Clivoris]

Must admit I've always preferred money over titles. G.

That posed me quite a conundrum for a while. Until I realised you said titles and not titties.

[Clivoris]

After due consideration I've decided that I would definitely race for titties.

[flame]

After due consideration I've decided that I would definitely race for titties.

lol.....I wouldn't

[Sparky Bills]

It so seems that theres more to this story than meets the eye.
DAM!! I hate being out of the loop!

[Clivoris]

lol.....I wouldn't

What if Drew ate more processed chicken products? Surely the thought of his man breasts heaving with excitement might get you on the gas a smidgeon earlier out of the corners?








Why do I suddenly feel dirty?

[White trash]

Fucking oath.



It's only later you told us your sponsors are happy just 'hanging'.



Slogged your guts out? Is the bike yours? Did you/are you having to buy it/pay for it? I'm still paying for the race bikes I got 'help' with. NEVER was a race bike literally given to me. So yes...you need to pull your head in. Earn your keep.



That's better.



Any top team would happily let your 'sponsors' polish their bikes and 'hang'.

At the end of the day Jimmy...instead of getting your nose out of joint, you should decide if your hearts in this racing thing or not. If not...let your sponsors cash help someone who's heart and dedication is there.

I think you misunderstood there slightly mate. I didn't mean to imply I slogged my guts out. I know more than anyone that I'm probably one of the best supported "non factory" riders. However by the same token, at between three to five new sets of slicks per meeting, travel and accomodation, time spent of work and the like, it's still far from easy budget wise.

Wasn't down south for various reasons, had a couple of personal issues that stopped me contesting the first two rounds. Teretonga was supposed to be a huge meeting for us in a corporate sense however someone fucked up the bookings and all my sponsors and their associates are booked for an action packed weekend in Invercargill, next weekend. The descision was made that it was simply not worthwhile me travelling all that way to race two races then travel all the way in the space of 6 days I had available to me. Sorry to dissapoint the folks that were gunning for me but it just wasn't to be.

We WILL be chargin' hard at Paeroa, Manfeild and Pukekohe. Got a couple of scores to settle

[roadracingoldfart]

What if Drew ate more processed chicken products? Surely the thought of his man breasts heaving with excitement might get you on the gas a smidgeon earlier out of the corners?








Why do I suddenly feel dirty?

OK OK OK Im getting a headache now Clive Now put ya raincoat away and get back to the subject

[roadracingoldfart]

I have come across this exact same thing Trashy.
I had a "team mate "for one meeting one time and then it stopped Pheeew.
Ill add that some sponsors do like to have a "B"crew to highlite the "A"team a bit more in the results. That can be clever marketing .
Id say its like this , advertising is good to any product , some market factors are better taken care of on the radio but others are better on the tele , some work in a magazine. We seek to make it work on a race bike fairing.
Its a funny thing advertising so it goes hand in hand to be a funny thing politically.
If i had the situation in my first sentance again i would have to show my hand in asking Why , How , When, is another party going to represent better than i was when representing alone and if the answers were valid and the image was positive to the sponsor then i would accept it . The reason we all seek a sponsor is to gain exposure for them , allow us to afford to race and to increase what we get from them by maximizing the exposure.
Finally .... another person sharing the same sponsor should be encouraging not depressing as it comes down to results in the long term.(survival of the fitest)

[GIXser]

well for what its worth these are my thoughts. (i didnt vote because of this)
if you know the person on a personal level or even spoken to him/her on occasions, i say next time you see them punch em square in the face, and say thanks mate" as the person has no pride, backbone, dignity, ethics etc etc,and if its a chick, just tell her she is fat, that should suffice

if on the other hand the person is new on the scene and you dont know them , then i give them a ten for trying.

anyway was good to see ya at the wedding ..........

[Drew]

,and if its a chick, just tell her she is fat, that should suffice

The best way to do that is to act nice, and just slip in, "you look different, have you gained wieght?" Works a treat

[denill]

HA ha, my sponsors aren't after a second rider, they're perfectly happy with where we are and where we're headed at the moment.

Of course it's the sponsor's decision (and their right) to decide what's best for them.

So what's the outcome? It appears they opted for you?

PS: I voted - No.

[denill]

It's a good thread tho - as it's a salutary lesson - never EVER take your sponsors for granted. A lot do!

[skelstar]

The best way to do that is to act nice, and just slip in, "you look different, have you gained wieght?" Works a treat

Or: "so when is it due?"

[Drew]

It's a good thread tho - as it's a salutary lesson - never EVER take your sponsors for granted. A lot do!

I cant imagine why anyone would take thier sponsors for granted, being as few and far between as they are.

Difficult to know really, since people put shop stickers on thier bikes for as little as 10% discount on parts, when most shops will give that to any regular customer. As riders in general the shops are sustained by us, so why advertise them or thier product for free?