An 18-year-old man rapes his 8-year-old stepsister.

[WTM]

Should he have done what he did? Probably not

Was it legal for him to do what he did? No

Whould I have done what he did? Yes but not by rape!

Suffice to say he would be incapable of most activities for the rest of his, no doubt short, life. (Hydrochloric acid and a skinning knife come to mind)

For a man or father, the concept of his wife/sister/mother/daughter being raped, is one that does not bear even contemplating (see the reaction of most of the men above).

For it to actually happen, is something that will cause the most severe reaction from a man, due to largely a feeling of failure and guilt for having not been there to protect her.

This is why in war woman are raped, not only just to subjugate just them, but to also inflict pain upon all of their family and society.

[Mom]

Not to put too fine a point on it, this is a terrible story and incredibly sad.

Frankly I dont believe there is any rehabilitation from the kind of life that obviously passes for normal in that household. The little girl at 8 will rehabilitate if removed from that situation, as for the rest of them......bullets are cheap eh?

[Grahameeboy]

[quote=007XX;1402086]

1) Ookkaaaayyy...This is a difficult one, as being a mother and obviously a female , I tend to want to hit hard on such a subject.

2) As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings.

[Quote]

1) Why are Mums' different to Dad's on this.....

2) I have to say that regardless of what he did, it did not give this guy the right to do what he did. The way I see it is that he only thought of his emotions and failed to think about the consequences of what he was going to do. He deserves to go to jail, however, tragic the circumstances were. I mean how would you feel, as Mum, if Neil did the same and ended up doing jail time for a few years and not having him around a your child's Father...........Child has no support from Father, especially after suffering such a horrible attack plus will know that their Father is not much better than the rapist..............

[Bikernereid]

I am fine now thanks. I just have a very good perspective on this issue and can see from the perspective of the person who has had the experience. I can honestly say that at the end of the day I would always choose to have had the 8 years I had with my dad before he died rather than have him be in prison!!

I know that dealing with my father being in prison would have been far worse than being raped. Many people may not understand this but at the end of the day the rape was one incident that I have dealt with but losing my father to the penal sytem would have psychologically and emotionally scared me far more. Losing the most important person in my life to a prison would just be hell on earth.

Everyone is different but I think that if you asked most women and men who have been raped if they would want thier father to end up in prison for a long stretch they would say a resounding NO!!

Sorry to hear...I bet that was a pretty difficult time in your life, which may still be affecting you, and quite rightly so...

I don't think there is an "emotional correct" answer, if you know what I mean.

[Toaster]

MY OPINION
---hopefully he has a ripped anal passage that gets infected and gives life to a oragnism that begins to eat him from his anal passage to the outside causing gangerine of all genitals and spreading to eat from the inside out his upper body however leaving all mental, and physical feelings working at 100 percent capacity.

k...nuff said

good on the dad but he will get fucked for doing it. If it were my daughter he wouldnt be so lucky.

Can I vote for you as Minister of Justice instead of these wetpants big-girls blouses we currently have in government?

[Bikernereid]

So glad to see that you are going into a caring profession!!

Can I vote for you as Minister of Justice instead of these wetpants big-girls blouses we currently have in government?

[trump-lady]

So glad to see that you are going into a caring profession!!

Well I am a social worker, love my job and some of my clients but trust me I bloody tell em when they fuck up and I tell them straight if you wont help yourself dont expect me too help you. I deal with the consequences of crime poverty and sexual abuse everyday but shit like this still infuriates me. Im very caring and understanding but I still say this asshole deserved what he got I just wish there was a legal way to inflict such justice because I would thing the reoffending rates for such crimes would drop.

[sunhuntin]

Oficially no... unoficially... I understand Kiddie fiddlers don't have a good time in prison. A lot of things get overlooked from time to time in kiddie fiddler land... small things like locking doors to their cells... keeping them safe at night.

God help anyone charged that's actually innocent though...

yeh, but the scum was bailed, so no prison justice.

[avgas]

Ah texas - only the fine come from there
Come out come out where ever you are texans

[007XX]

1) Why are Mums' different to Dad's on this.....

2) I have to say that regardless of what he did, it did not give this guy the right to do what he did. The way I see it is that he only thought of his emotions and failed to think about the consequences of what he was going to do. He deserves to go to jail, however, tragic the circumstances were. I mean how would you feel, as Mum, if Neil did the same and ended up doing jail time for a few years and not having him around a your child's Father...........Child has no support from Father, especially after suffering such a horrible attack plus will know that their Father is not much better than the rapist..............

What I meant is:

I can understand what urged this man to take upon himself to punish the offender. The pure anger that comes from having your young hurt is one of the most violent one there is...I'm sure you would know that too.
I do not however, condone his methods...Two wrongs don't make a right concept applies.

And Neil would never do such a thing...He might give the little turd a serious hiding (and what Father wouldn't?), but he would never stoop to the level of an eye for an eye. As much as I know he would have both the primary impulse and the means to do away with someone, he has enough self control and wisdom to control himself.

[Grahameeboy]

What I meant is:

I can understand what urged this man to take upon himself to punish the offender. The pure anger that comes from having your young hurt is one of the most violent one there is...I'm sure you would know that too.
I do not however, condone his methods...Two wrongs don't make a right concept applies.

And Neil would never do such a thing...He might give the little turd a serious hiding (and what Father wouldn't?), but he would never stoop to the level of an eye for an eye. As much as I know he would have both the primary impulse and the means to do away with someone, he has enough self control and wisdom to control himself.

But you did say "As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings." hence my response 2) and taking Neil as a hypothetical scenario.

[007XX]

But you did say "As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings." hence my response

Hence the fact I clarified my opinion...I don't condone the raping, but I have always thought that castration for sexual offenders was a reasonnable answer. And yes, I am quite serious about that. For a female, it gets a little trickier of course, but then, euthanasia comes to mind.

These are what I meant by "treatment reserved to animals", because a person commiting this type of crime in my mind is an animal, not a human being...

2) and taking Neil as a hypothetical scenario.

I know, I know...don't panic ol' fella!

[Bikernereid]

Means let out on bail until court hearing, it does not mean he got off with what he did!!

yeh, but the scum was bailed, so no prison justice.

[Number One]

Means let out on bail until court hearing, it does not mean he got off with what he did!!

I'll bet his 8 year old step-sister trying to sleep in the room down the hall isn't so chuffed about the delay in putting her dirty little bastard step bro behind bars as soon as possible! And actually he did get away with it...cos it happened and that poor girl's perspective, attitude and likely personality will be changed forever.

Why should he be allowed to walk free until he's brought before the court? Seems there isn't much doubt that he did it...fathers actions not acceptable but can appreciate the blinding fury that would've overcome that daddy.

NO victim feels safe or happy or comfortable knowing their 'animal' is walking around loose 'until they get their day in court'...you can see why people have no faith in the legal system and so don't come forward to bring these repugnant losers down. The victim (already traumatised) generally has to defend themself, working to prove they didn't 'ask for it', 'bring it on themselves' or have a 'questionable character that could make the crime seem less of a bad thing' while the perp gets to sit back feeling all powerful in the knowledge that they are tearing a victim down even further in the fight to make that person accountable for that which they dearly bloody deserve to be punished IMHO without mercy.

Said it before and will say it again:
Rapists should have their balls nailed to the floor of a wooden cabin, set that to light and they have the option to get up and run or stay and burn...should they actually have the will to run I'm waiting outside with a double barrel of some description.

Hot flush - moving on...must get post count up

[Bikernereid]

He has a right to be let out on bail if they do not thik he poses a danger, ok letting him is odd but it is the US.

If he had to be let out then I think that he should have had a restraining tyope order that made it a legal requirement for him to stay away from the girl. Maybe the mother would have organised this had she had the chance.

Oh well I guess there will not be TWO rapists going to gail and who is no know which one will have the better time of it, the one who raped a young girl or the one who raped another man!!

Two wrongs never make a right and there are laws set down so that we do not end up in an anarchical, linch-mob mentakity driven society.

I'll bet his 8 year old step-sister trying to sleep in the room down the hall isn't so chuffed about the delay in putting her dirty little bastard step bro behind bars as soon as possible! And actually he did get away with it...cos it happened and that poor girl's perspective, attitude and likely personality will be changed forever.

Why should he be allowed to walk free until he's brought before the court? Seems there isn't much doubt that he did it...fathers actions not acceptable but can appreciate the blinding fury that would've overcome that daddy.

NO victim feels safe or happy or comfortable knowing their 'animal' is walking around loose 'until they get their day in court'...you can see why people have no faith in the legal system and so don't come forward to bring these repugnant losers down. The victim (already traumatised) generally has to defend themself, working to prove they didn't 'ask for it', 'bring it on themselves' or have a 'questionable character that could make the crime seem less of a bad thing' while the perp gets to sit back feeling all powerful in the knowledge that they are tearing a victim down even further in the fight to make that person accountable for that which they dearly bloody deserve to be punished IMHO without mercy.

Said it before and will say it again:
Rapists should have their balls nailed to the floor of a wooden cabin, set that to light and they have the option to get up and run or stay and burn...should they actually have the will to run I'm waiting outside with a double barrel of some description.

Hot flush - moving on...must get post count up