Here is the first shot in the war on democracy

[Coyote]

If that ever became a threat, they just legalise cannabis and......null and void! Wasted vote! John.

Maybe null and void will be better than poorly managed?

[Maffoo]

Wrong. He did put his name up (Matt Something or Other), he refused (for good reason, in my opinion) to put his residential address up. Given the lunatics running around this country at the moment, I'd do the same thing.

Of course, I would have hosted the website offshore in the first place, and when the Electoral Commission came calling, give them a giant "Fuck You"

do you seriously think someone is going to come knocking on his door because he puts up an anti-labour website? my god
the law was enacted to stop groups slandering and/or promoting political parties as they wish under the cloak of anonymity ... which is NOT what democracy is about

[Usarka]

if voters are too stupid to question what is behind a website then maybe we shouldn't trust them with a vote in the first place.

do you seriously think someone is going to come knocking on his door because he puts up an anti-labour website? my god
the law was enacted to stop groups slandering and/or promoting political parties as they wish under the cloak of anonymity ... which is NOT what democracy is about

put your money where your mouth is - post your address here now.

[Mully]

do you seriously think someone is going to come knocking on his door because he puts up an anti-labour website?

No, I think some left-wing lunatic is going to come and tag or throw things at his house.

Did you read any of the "Pro-Labour" ranting from people on his site? If you did, you would understand why he would be reluctant to put his address on public display.

[Maffoo]

if voters are too stupid to question what is behind a website then maybe we shouldn't trust them with a vote in the first place.



put your money where your mouth is - post your address here now.

**address removed under advice**

not that im under any obligation to do so ... seeing as im not the one putting up anti-party websites

& anyone thinking of using that for nefarious purposes, i have a kill first, ask questions later policy .... just so you know


EDIT - i took my address down under advice
& thats the thing,.. im allowed to.... i am exercising my rights to discuss politics on a free forums without disclosing myself, which the guy who ran that other site is allowed to do, & you all are allowed to do....
& on voting day, i will exercise my right to vote for my list candidate & my party candidate

this, my friends, is democracy...

No, I think some left-wing lunatic is going to come and tag or throw things at his house.

Did you read any of the "Pro-Labour" ranting from people on his site? If you did, you would understand why he would be reluctant to put his address on public display.

if he is reluctant to put his address on public display, then maybe he shouldnt be getting so involved in politics? maybe he should just do what the rest of us do, & vote on polling day, for the party or parties he wants in power ....

[Mully]

if he is reluctant to put his address on public display, then maybe he shouldnt be getting so involved in politics? maybe he should just do what the rest of us do, & vote on polling day, for the party or parties he wants in power ....

To be honest, that is a good point, and I presume he will be doing just that.

I still don't see why he can't have his site up (with his name, sure) to say his piece. Someone else could register www.dontvoteforanyofthebastards.org.nz if they wanted. Isn't that what democracy is about? The cost is a moot point, as you can register and host a website for a pittance (I think our ISP offers free hosting). As previously mentioned, anyone silly enough to read "Don't Vote Labour/National/Greens/NZ First/Whatever" and decides not to vote for that party for that reason, maybe shouldn't get a vote.

[sAsLEX]

One could be churlish and say "I told you so," but one should attempt to be mature about this.

If our friend is smart, he will repost his "web site" as a "blog". And tell the Electoral Commission to enjoy the combined delights of sex and travel.

I would just host it in some obscure nation where our laws do not apply.

[Hitcher]

I would just host it in some obscure nation where our laws do not apply.

It's not that simple. Unfortunately.

[sAsLEX]

It's not that simple. Unfortunately.

So how would the NZ govt. shut down said website if the owner has well hidden themselves? Since they cant exactly waltz in and demand information from our said host nation......

[Hitcher]

So how would the NZ govt. shut down said website if the owner has well hidden themselves? Since they cant exactly waltz in and demand information from our said host nation......

New Zealanders normally resident in New Zealand are subject to the laws of New Zealand, irrespective of where a web site may be hosted. And, if a crime has been committed or believed to have been committed, yes "they" can "waltz in and demand information". The same applies to other countries. Try posting some pro-terrorist shit (but not on this site, OK) on a New Zealand-hosted site and start your stopwatch to see how long it is before you get a knock on your door.

[sAsLEX]

New Zealanders normally resident in New Zealand are subject to the laws of New Zealand, irrespective of where a web site may be hosted. And, if a crime has been committed or believed to have been committed, yes "they" can "waltz in and demand information". The same applies to other countries. Try posting some pro-terrorist shit (but not on this site, OK) on a New Zealand-hosted site and start your stopwatch to see how long it is before you get a knock on your door.

Soooo if I did all this whilst overseas? Not NZ based? Say we got Finn to do it on his travels, putting the site up whilst not within these shores?

Law circumvented.


Oh I know get a little boat and go off 12 miles and do it via Inmarsat....... Radio used to be out of reach of the public?

[jrandom]

Try posting some pro-terrorist shit...

You reckon amateur terrorist shit wouldn't get much of a reaction, then?

[Hitcher]

Soooo if I did all this whilst overseas? Not NZ based? Say we got Finn to do it on his travels, putting the site up whilst not within these shores?

Law circumvented.


Oh I know get a little boat and go off 12 miles and do it via Inmarsat....... Radio used to be out of reach of the public?

You are a New Zealand citizen normally resident in New Zealand. If you're going to imagine a counter-factual, make it a good one. Please.

You reckon amateur terrorist shit wouldn't get much of a reaction, then?

The spooks wouldn't cross the road to piss on amateur terrorists.

[The Pastor]

The spooks wouldn't cross the road to piss on amateur terrorists.

In the states some dick head posted "im going to kill george bush" on a body building fourm. He was 13 years old. The FBI arrested him.

[Maffoo]

You are a New Zealand citizen normally resident in New Zealand. If you're going to imagine a counter-factual, make it a good one. Please.



The spooks wouldn't cross the road to piss on amateur terrorists.

they climbed the ureweras for some