Anybody see Close Up at 7 tonight? Even if you didn't

[Jamezo]

I rate the guy. He seems to have a conscience, and he uses his reach publicise some of the shit and the hypocrisy that goes on.

Who wouldn't love to be able to stand up and voice their opinions and have the kind of audience this guy does? Like the Imagine remake from Perfect Circle, you might not like the track, but the intent is clear.

Compare that to wonder bunny Scribe. I could be setting myself up here, but all scribe ever seems to focus on is Scribe. Which seems weird in a country that has it's own issues right now (foreskin and seabed anyone?)

Of course the best band in the world right now is Interpol, absolutely no argument

hahaha, scribe makes me laugh for the same reason, he's so self-congratulatory in his songs... when people start to sing about themselves.... yeesh. but I don't think eminem is completely innocent of that? neither is most hip-hop/rap?

[Blakamin]

side note: I've never bought a guitar mag either

I blame record companies for everything.... EVERYTHING. rain, wind, the price of fish!
(writing up a copyright return for the bastards right now)

I dont see the artist as being a commercial sellout (or whatever)(ohh....except metallisux.... lars is a money-hungry little freak) its the companies behind them, radio, tv etc....The reason most people dont open their minds to more music is that the radio stations wont play it!
and that aint gunna change in a hurry because to have a good album, you need to have a good sound. to get a good sound, you need good people behind the desk. to get them you need $$$$. you need distibution, you need marketing!
All well and good is the internet, but i'm not gunna spend my hard-earned $$$ on something I havent heard of, to end up with a couple of bytes on my PC... GIVE ME CD's!!! properly produced & engineered!
and that takes money!
and the only ones spending the money are record companies!

[Jamezo]

have you considered 'testing' music by downloading it P2P, before possibly purchasing a CD?

as for Metallica$h, www.larself.com ... mmmmmm lars is an elf...

can I reccomend that you check out www.guitarwar.com ?

this war just went public access, http://www.guitarwar.com/viewpublic....name=war_melee

DL the track on the left for free, it's so cool. some dude wrote it about his aunt that died.

[Blakamin]

have you considered 'testing' music by downloading it P2P, before possibly purchasing a CD?

I sorta get all my music for nothing in this business (company pays for it, about 160 times)
p2p sux... you never get what you want, and the quality is shit! (did audio-engineering for a few years, hate crap bit-rates)
Nah... when and IF I find something new that i like, its normally thru a friend or a review from certain trusted sources on the net...

[Jamezo]

you know those paid audio download sites? are the files you get from that better quality than that of an identical bitrate ripped from a CD?

do they encode the mp3's from the original source? because I can't see the point of paying for something that was not better than a track ripped from CD.

you can generally find bitrates for any song P2P, of up to 300k, more than enough for my needs.

[Paul in NZ]

And you gotta tie them to a stake and stack faggots around them and then light the fire, the burning faggots dry the witches out so they can burn, that's the way you do 'em, money for nothing and the witch is free!!

Now you are just being silly Scumdog...

I dunno about where you live but here in the civilised north we are not allowed to burn faggots any more... Besides, it would be hard to tie the witch TO the stake 'cos half the population (and some of the faggots) would be saying, 'Oh! That looks like fun! Hey, why does she get all the fun! I wanna be tied to the stake' Then they would be a riot while they tried to take the witches place and she could run away...

Ok. It's a stupid post but better than and argument about trivial music (the sort without banjos)

Paul N

into crap music

[Blakamin]

you know those paid audio download sites? are the files you get from that better quality than that of an identical bitrate ripped from a CD?

No

do they encode the mp3's from the original source? because I can't see the point of paying for something that was not better than a track ripped from CD.

from experience I've had with one company, they get supplied (from the record company) a decent MP3 or actual CD.... but most RC's supply a CD to the reseller and let them sort it out.... one worldwide company I have dealt with dont do mp3's at all

you can generally find bitrates for any song P2P, of up to 300k, more than enough for my needs.

I actually prefer Variable Bit Rates for my personal stuff....
And I hate dicking around with p2p networks, finding a complete song without being queued takes too long

I use irc for album testing

[jrandom]

Personally I enjoyed 'Stan' and 'Lose yourself' . Saying there is no rythmn in the music...I would say that eminem is all about cadence and rythmn...

Well, yes indeed.

You inadvertently highlight the main point, I think; Eminem's lyrics may well be politically astute and socially relevant, but ain't nobody gonna listen to them unless they got phat beats and catchy hooks going on behind.

In your abovementioned cases, Dido and Aerosmith did all the hard work.

And in the case of, say, 'My Name Is...' and 'The Real Slim Shady' the stuff that gets your foot tapping is the product of Dre's back-room beat factory. You think Eminem sweats long, hard hours over a keyboard and mixer?

Personally, I'm just happy to listen to whatever sounds good.

[scumdog]

Now you are just being silly Scumdog...

I dunno about where you live but here in the civilised north we are not allowed to burn faggots any more... Besides, it would be hard to tie the witch TO the stake 'cos half the population (and some of the faggots) would be saying, 'Oh! That looks like fun! Hey, why does she get all the fun! I wanna be tied to the stake' Then they would be a riot while they tried to take the witches place and she could run away...

Ok. It's a stupid post but better than and argument about trivial music (the sort without banjos)

Paul N

into crap music

Why don't you burn faggots up your way? what else CAN you do with lots of little twigs tied up in bundles? How DO you start your witch burnings? and yeah, couldn't resist it with the Dire Straights (mis)quote, got all carried away with this music business. :sly:

Besides SOMEBODY has to be silly so's the others know they're not
aNF YEAH

[Hitcher]

Personally I enjoyed 'Stan' and 'Lose yourself' . Saying there is no rythmn in the music...I would say that eminem is all about cadence and rythmn.

A lot of people are dismissive of poetry if it doesn't rhyme or conform to their expectation of "verse". Sigh.

[Paul in NZ]

Why don't you burn faggots up your way? what else CAN you do with lots of little twigs tied up in bundles? How DO you start your witch burnings? and yeah, couldn't resist it with the Dire Straights (mis)quote, got all carried away with this music business. :sly:

Besides SOMEBODY has to be silly so's the others know they're not
aNF YEAH

AH! Those faggots... Lotsa little twigs! Silly me I thought lotsa little twits tied together..

[duckman]

This sounds toooo much like...

Boy buys guitar ...
Boy learns a few chords...
Boy "finds" satriani, Vai e.t.c. ...
Boy suddenly has new big opinion on all that "other" shit music now that hes found the really stuff ...

Fuck off .... Don't you think that it's really just a matter of personal taste ??

I have a preference for rock/ska/punk but I like lot's of different styles including rap,hip hop, hard house, blues, anything but country, thats just for faggs .. (troll)


I dunno maybe I've eread ya wrong but it sounds like your just speiling crap to me.

[scroter]

Eminem is from a city with a predominantly black population, with hideous social issues. If Eminem is the "friendly" white face of rap then you haven't been listening or watching. Eminem is one of the foremost commentators of the injustices of both white trash and African American culture. Race isn't an issue with Eminem, but he reflects that values of a massive chunk of Urban white and African American youth. Ignore that little bit of info at your peril, because like it or not, the most diseased vagrant living in the shelter of a freeway underpass in the US has more political, military, and economic might to reinforce his/her "right" to be a bum than any other human being living or dead.

If we were to apply the standard NZ rule of consensus taking the day, your opinion is worth, oooo, about, well, nothing.

Pop back under a rock for twenty years and see if we "catch up" to your musical taste when you pop back out.

plus if you listen to him hes funny as hell. most of his songs are just taking the piss out of other musicians. i think some people cant get past the swearing though.

[scroter]

I think I come off pretty well in the 'corporate sponsorship' test, I have never paid for any kind of brand-name anything, the last time I bought a CD was when I was 9 or so.

when was the last time you bought some watties tomato sauce or ETA ripples etc. what kind of car do you drive. i think its kinda sad goin thru life, i cant have that cause some corporate seat warmer might make too much cash. personally i buy what i like.

[Jamezo]

This sounds toooo much like...

Boy buys guitar ...
Boy learns a few chords...
Boy "finds" satriani, Vai e.t.c. ...
Boy suddenly has new big opinion on all that "other" shit music now that hes found the really stuff ...

Fuck off .... Don't you think that it's really just a matter of personal taste ??

I have a preference for rock/ska/punk but I like lot's of different styles including rap,hip hop, hard house, blues, anything but country, thats just for faggs .. (troll)


I dunno maybe I've eread ya wrong but it sounds like your just speiling crap to me.

thank you for your eloquent and informed contribution to this thread. I suppose if you say so, I am just some n00b guitarist with a contrived musical opinion. I am amazed how well you can judge the skill of people you have never heard, you seem to have really hit the nail on the head with that one. george W bush is a very nice man, he is making the world a safer place for everyone!