Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
I thought this was a biker site and therefore pretty much PC immune.Originally Posted by Jiminy
Wake up, there's no conclusive evidence that brighter colour will make you *more* visible in most traffic situations.
And ironically, not all learners are NEW to traffic...
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Highway Biker
People wear these "bright" colours to stand out. These neon colours create a contrast to the background that they are in.
Coloured motorcycle gear does not come in neon (some have reflective strips, as my jacket does around the shoulders), it comes in normal colours that you are likely to find on buildings and all around indutrialised areas, and hence the colours do not contrast with the background.
Colour may help but not as much as people make out.
Forum whore
Heh! Like I've had my car licence for almost 25 years but I've only just my motorbike licence... I wouldn't say I'm new to traffic!!
Good point! +1
aka: Benjamin Franklin Pierce
Yeah! I've seen that before. They don't make leathers in that stuff so looks like I'm stuck with black.
I'm only wearing black until they develop something darker
We came, We listened, And in one voice we answered
BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!!
Shafty Bugger
I guess That I must be colour blind or somthing
But
Having read this thread and others like it
I have taken notice of the colour of any bike that approaches me when out driving, riding, walking, whatever
Everyone approching me looks Black untill side on.
Harleys are the easiest to see with the high crome content , and sprot bikes the worst, dont understand that.
But all the riders look black , or in a shadow, and their colour only becomes apparrent from the side or the back. Including the colour of the bike. This is straight on not side on
Even a high vis vest from the front tends to be in a shadow and appear black.
So my personal opinion, what ever you think as the colour for your riding gear,lots of crome and bright yellow side lights.
Black is easier to keep clean and repaired as well.
To be old and wise, first you must be young and stupid.
Hardcore Biker
Nothing to do with PC, just my opinion. The 'PC hunt' should not prevent anyone from having an opinion.
I had been driving cars for 15 years and had used push bikes around town for pretty much that long before getting a bike. Sure I was experienced with traffic, but things still felt different on a motorbike.
My issue is that the offer in some shops contradicts what everyone else tells you as a learner before walking into the said shop. Now either we all agree that the research is bullshit and stop telling new bikers to wear some sorts of colors, or some shops would be well advised to offer choices in their beginner sets. In my case, I find the research on the topic very conclusive and walked away from the shop to buy my all of my gear some place there.
From my understanding reading the research, the actual gain of wearing colors is small enough that you won't even perceive it in any single ride, it's on the sum of all rides that you see a trend appearing. It was sufficient for ME to choose a patterned helmet and a jacket with some sort of colors. I am NOT wearing a white helmet and a high viz vest because I find it over the top for ME. What YOU wear is none of my business, I never implied anything about what YOU should wear.
I'd be keen to hear the opinion of those who give motorbike safety courses (RoadSafe?). What do you think, and if you mention the color issue in your course, why?
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Can't claim 25 years... not even close. Still 8 years is enough to feel ridiculed by the learners period!
Indeed it's different. As has been said - as a first rule assume you're invisible to other roadusers. The colour you wear shouldn't affect that.
Good point. My general experience with KB is that that is a prudent approach because if you try and tell anyone how to do something be ready to be flamed.From my understanding reading the research, the actual gain of wearing colors is small enough that you won't even perceive it in any single ride, it's on the sum of all rides that you see a trend appearing. It was sufficient for ME to choose a patterned helmet and a jacket with some sort of colors. I am NOT wearing a white helmet and a high viz vest because I find it over the top for ME. What YOU wear is none of my business, I never implied anything about what YOU should wear.
Black isn't a bad colour - in fact it's a badass colour
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Hardcore Biker
Wearing black leathers makes you instantly ride like a pro!!! and it adds about 50hp EXTRA ON YOUR BIKE!!!!But dont worry it gets better if the leathers are 2 tone with another cool colour it will also increase your laptimes by 10% every lap... i shit you not!!
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Yeah - fuck those bastards who think it's about having the lowest laptimes... They got it WRONG!
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Moped rider
If people really care about being seen, buy a hi vis vest, if not don't bother. I personally don't think it makes an ounce of difference, but it might just stop the boys in blue pulling you over for a lecture.
Leather gear with full body armour is the best option and any colour other than black becomes black over time. I'm not averse to the odd reflective strip or colours on my riding gear, but honestly a bright jacket won't save your skin, but a spine protector and some body armour might...
Having been hit by 3 cars in 25 years of riding, if the driver is looking the other way, or makes judgemental errors about driving, it doesnt matter what you look like.
Forum whore
Actually, black isn't technically a colour is it? It is devoid of all colour.Can't claim 25 years... not even close. Still 8 years is enough to feel ridiculed by the learners period!
Indeed it's different. As has been said - as a first rule assume you're invisible to other roadusers. The colour you wear shouldn't affect that.
Black isn't a bad colour - in fact it's a badass colour
I don't feel ridiculed by the learners process as much as a little insulted!
M
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Well, it's as much a colour as white then... guess you could call it an achromatic colour. Funny how you can have a shiny black surface isn't it?
I try and not let it get too much to me. But I can't pretend I'm not seeing it
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Tsar Bomba
I wear black to make the paint job on my bike stand out
"Riders of the Far North"
They say that black is slimming.....So when you have custom gear size 9xl like me you need to believe shit like this
I ask for nothing but to ride where ever the road calls
Tsar Bomba
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