Whine-tangi Day and Maori Protocol?

[James Deuce]

.Easy to be brave behind a keyboard.

Isn't it just.

[yod]

So fucking what!You're married to Jewish lady.What makes you think any hardship she may have endured gives you the right to speak on her behalf.Easy to be brave behind a keyboard.That doesn't give you any insights.And please,do you know any victims from the Holocaust?I do.You honestly think that being raised as a Jew today would be harder than being raised as Palestinian?Chosen....ppftttt

wow, talk about missing the point entirely

all i meant was i understand a fair portion of their culture as far as how women are treated - nothing to do who's been oppressed more (do you actually READ threads or just fly off the handle after reading one post?)

Palestinians?? wtf??

and what the hell has "Easy to be brave behind a keyboard" got to do with anything??

any more wild assumptions you'd like to make?

take a fucking chill pill mate...

[MSTRS:Me]

So fucking what!You're married to Jewish lady.What makes you think any hardship she may have endured gives you the right to speak on her behalf.Easy to be brave behind a keyboard.That doesn't give you any insights.And please,do you know any victims from the Holocaust?I do.You honestly think that being raised as a Jew today would be harder than being raised as Palestinian?Chosen....ppftttt

Angry. Ignorant. And Arrogant too.
See you at Ti Ti Marae. Hone will have a special spot reserved just for you.

[mitchilin]

thanks for calling me a cunt, by the way.

Note we only get a day off if Whine tangi day is on a Monday thru Friday.

Might one assume that you are a maori? Let me ask you some questions: (and since you've personalised the whole debate by calling me names, I shall continue in that vein)

Background: I, thru the extraordinarily large tax bills I pay every year, have contributed directly to the settlement of maori greivances, and have paid a lot of money to various tribes over the past few years.


What have you done with my money?

How much had trickled down to you, the maori person walking or riding down the street?

Why do you feel entitled to more?

Why have the various appalling statistics relating to health, education and welfare and violence relevant to maori people not been improved by the large quantities of money I have paid you?

If not now, how much more money will you want till you can start sorting out this stuff yourself?

When is a "final settlement" a final settlement?

Why is the stone-age concept of a "tribe" thought to be relevant in 2007?

When will you stop whining and just get the hell on with it like the rest of us?




PS, any answer containing the words "colonialism" or "racism" is unacceptable.

FUCK OFF!How much do you pay.Last year I paid over 20k.How much did I get back ?Nothing.Words like "stone age" and "tribe" were deliberately put in there as a smoke screen to belittle me.When I used the word cunt I was generalising.If you took it personal....then fucking good job.Do you really believe I'm some fucking radical Maori just sitting on KB waiting to take offense?I thought KB was there to talk and meet some like minded people,but you're obviously the sort that will cover your mouth when you speak so as not to offend"them".I'm not the one whining,CUNT,you are.As for getting on with it like the rest off us,I get on every fucking day.I've not had a sick day in three years and work for one of NZ's biggest companies.When was your last sick day eh,cunt?

[yod]

no, it doesn't

yes, it does

[yod]

FUCK OFF!How much do you pay.Last year I paid over 20k.How much did I get back ?Nothing.Words like "stone age" and "tribe" were deliberately put in there as a smoke screen to belittle me.When I used the word cunt I was generalising.If you took it personal....then fucking good job.Do you really believe I'm some fucking radical Maori just sitting on KB waiting to take offense?I thought KB was there to talk and meet some like minded people,but you're obviously the sort that will cover your mouth when you speak so as not to offend"them".I'm not the one whining,CUNT,you are.As for getting on with it like the rest off us,I get on every fucking day.I've not had a sick day in three years and work for one of NZ's biggest companies.When was your last sick day eh,cunt?

NO sick days in THREE years??

wow, you're so cool, I wish I could compete with that since it's SO important to my identity

what are you? 5 years old?



got anything intelligent or reasoned to say ?

fuck cunt fuck cunt fuck cunt fuck (just thought I'd get all the essentials in at the end)

[98tls]

Anyone got a spare flag,ive found the shotgun but cant find the fucken flag.

[Hitcher]

There are some sensitive wee things attempting to post in this thread. Could they please endeavour to:

a) keep it on topic
b) resist resorting to cheap personal attacks.

Otherwise there will be some "moderating" happening and, possibly, tears before bedtime (other than mine).

Thank you.

[mitchilin]

If I offended anyone with my comments ,but I feel Maori get the short end of the stick everytime.Walk in my shoes for a day.I'm sick of racism.Every day I have to face it you don't.

[HenryDorsetCase]

FUCK OFF!How much do you pay.Last year I paid over 20k.How much did I get back ?Nothing.Words like "stone age" and "tribe" were deliberately put in there as a smoke screen to belittle me.When I used the word cunt I was generalising.If you took it personal....then fucking good job.Do you really believe I'm some fucking radical Maori just sitting on KB waiting to take offense?I thought KB was there to talk and meet some like minded people,but you're obviously the sort that will cover your mouth when you speak so as not to offend"them".I'm not the one whining,CUNT,you are.As for getting on with it like the rest off us,I get on every fucking day.I've not had a sick day in three years and work for one of NZ's biggest companies.When was your last sick day eh,cunt?

$20k? not to get into a pissing contest or anything, but I pay provisional tax, and if I get a note from my accountant that my prov tax payment (3 monthly) is less than $20k I think they've forgotten something.

I'm self employed, and my last sick days (three of them) were about three weeks ago. Thanks for asking, I feel much better now.

by the way, stone age is a descriptive term, as was tribe. One believes that pre-European maori were not famous for their mining or metalworking skills.

I do seem to have pressed your buttons, rather though. Much more than I was trying to.

And no, I'm not sorry, and no, I don't apologise.

And yes, I can keep this up all night. But not tomorrow, I'll be out riding.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Anyone got a spare flag,ive found the shotgun but cant find the fucken flag.

one might speculate that you are the wrong ethnicity to get away with firing a shotgun at a flag at a public gathering.

[Paul in NZ]

Jeepers folks - take a chill pill and lay out points sensibly otherwise the angry agitators will be happy and the only winners will be the guys selling AK47's on trade me.

Seriously - this day has become a focus for the angry hate mechants, it will never resolve anything and I reckon it should be abandoned before it causes more conflict. - I really dislike it and I suspect a large proportion of Maori roll their eyes up in horror at the thought of it - but of course I wouldn't know because I am scared of Maraes...

However - I suppose the real question is - how much of what goes on IS genuinely protocol and how much is tweaked to grab a headline?

Paul N (now hating I started this)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Jeepers folks - take a chill pill and lay out points sensibly otherwise the angry agitators will be happy and the only winners will be the guys selling AK47's on trade me.

I need a link please. done a search and cant find any.

Apparently you can buy an AK47 at any street market in South America.

[98tls]

one might speculate that you are the wrong ethnicity to get away with firing a shotgun at a flag at a public gathering.

yea but for weeks know ive been applying the clearasil very carefully so that when tommorow comes theres just some very angry red welts across my face....that oughta fool them.

[Paul in NZ]

If I offended anyone with my comments ,but I feel Maori get the short end of the stick everytime.Walk in my shoes for a day.I'm sick of racism.Every day I have to face it you don't.

Yep - you are right but on the other hand, we all have crosses to bear in life - I hate my bloody insulin and all the crap that goes with it like a life expectancy on average 33% shorter, my wife hates her dyslexia and being 5' tall with a crushed vertebrae... It's not your issues that matter in life but how you deal with them really!

Still, I think you will find your words have increased your standing (well in my eyes) and I would be genuinely interested in what you think. I've had some really bad experiences with Marae protocol etc from some seriously agro people but spent some delightful time discussing Te Reo and other issues with folks (came away quite impressed by the commitment required)

Ah well - stuff it, I'll drink too much tonight and pretend I can spray paint again... (this will end badly I can assure you)