Whine-tangi Day and Maori Protocol?

[SPman]

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Make ANZAC day our national day. All shops closed same as Christmas day and Easter Sunday.

No right to vote or receive any form of state assistance unless you attend a dawn parade or provide a medical certificate that you couldnt go.

Anzac day celebrates what makes this country great: international recognition, co-operation, bravery and sacrifice, and it doesnt matter what colour you are or whose great grandfather screwed over who out of what scrubby bit of backcountry*.

I will be out riding my motorbike if the weather is reasonable.

What!....on Anzac Day!

[HenryDorsetCase]

no, tomorrow on Whine-tungy day

[yod]

On a slightly different but related topic, I was interested in the comments around increased intimidation in Marae Protocol. Its not a subject I'm terribly familiar with or even want to know anything about anymore. I could however understand what they were going on about with the dog noises though. My own experiences to date have been pretty negative and hostile and I have found myself giving any Marae a wide birth - I don't need the grief and would try to avoid another visit at almost any cost.

it's well out of date as far as human rights are concerned; much like Judaism, Islam, etc, it treats woman as lower class beings

[James Deuce]

Ditch it and replace it with "Sir Edmund Hilary Day".

Then create a National Holiday of Nationhood on Dominion Day, 26th September.

[mitchilin]

Can see there's fuck all Maori on Kb,Everyone seems to say they don't care about it but seems to say a whole lot.You get a day off and whinge about it.That's the English in you lot.Same cunts that whinge about the Aisians ,let look confused when I reply"Yeah, that's what we said two hundred years ago."

[mitchilin]

it's well out of date as far as human rights are concerned; much like Judaism, Islam, etc, it treats woman as lower class beings

What the fuck would you know?Thats based on ignorance.

[yod]

What the fuck would you know?Thats based on ignorance.

so you generalise about people's knowledge or lack thereof when you have no idea who they are, or what they actually know ? and you call me ignorant????

what the fuck would I know?

you mean apart from being married to a jew?



idiot

[James Deuce]

Can see there's fuck all Maori on Kb,Everyone seems to say they don't care about it but seems to say a whole lot.You get a day off and whinge about it.That's the English in you lot.Same cunts that whinge about the Aisians ,let look confused when I reply"Yeah, that's what we said two hundred years ago."

Sorry mate, but it's gone from being a National Day of celebration to being the sort of angry rant you just popped up.

You're also about as racist as it gets, but I guess I'm not "entitled" to say that. My ancestors put up with a 2000 years of oppression and genocide and there's fuck all of us left. A lot of us ended up here, but we're being made unwelcome once again. Big chunks of my racial history are dead and gone. My language effectively died out during the 19th centrury diaspora of my people, but you don't care about welcoming me as a fellow sufferer at the hands of the same people who stiffed you, you just think all white people are "English".

[HenryDorsetCase]

Sorry mate, but it's gone from being a National Day of celebration to being the sort of angry rant you just popped up.

You're also about as racist as it gets, but I guess I'm not "entitled" to say that. My ancestors put up with a 2000 years of oppression and genocide and there's fuck all of us left. A lot of us ended up here, but we're being made unwelcome once again. Big chunks of my racial history are dead and gone. My language effectively died out during the 19th centrury diaspora of my people, but you don't care about welcoming me as a fellow sufferer at the hands of the same people who stiffed you, you just think all white people are "English".

brilliantly, eloquently put.

Being white, middle aged and middle class means that whatever I do, I'm oppressing some minority.

I've decided I'm OK with that.

[mstriumph]

.... Judaism...........treats woman as lower class beings

no, it doesn't

[mstriumph]

Sorry mate, but it's gone from being a National Day of celebration to being the sort of angry rant you just popped up.

You're also about as racist as it gets, but I guess I'm not "entitled" to say that. ..............

heck this is KB - say it all you like - i may even join you


in fact - i'll drink to that!

[jimbo600]

Big chunks of my racial history are dead and gone. My language effectively died out during the 19th centrury diaspora of my people, but you don't care about welcoming me as a fellow sufferer at the hands of the same people who stiffed you, you just think all white people are "English".

Are you a Jedi Jim?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Can see there's fuck all Maori on Kb,Everyone seems to say they don't care about it but seems to say a whole lot.You get a day off and whinge about it.That's the English in you lot.Same cunts that whinge about the Aisians ,let look confused when I reply"Yeah, that's what we said two hundred years ago."

thanks for calling me a cunt, by the way.

Note we only get a day off if Whine tangi day is on a Monday thru Friday.

Might one assume that you are a maori? Let me ask you some questions: (and since you've personalised the whole debate by calling me names, I shall continue in that vein)

Background: I, thru the extraordinarily large tax bills I pay every year, have contributed directly to the settlement of maori greivances, and have paid a lot of money to various tribes over the past few years.


What have you done with my money?

How much had trickled down to you, the maori person walking or riding down the street?

Why do you feel entitled to more?

Why have the various appalling statistics relating to health, education and welfare and violence relevant to maori people not been improved by the large quantities of money I have paid you?

If not now, how much more money will you want till you can start sorting out this stuff yourself?

When is a "final settlement" a final settlement?

Why is the stone-age concept of a "tribe" thought to be relevant in 2007?

When will you stop whining and just get the hell on with it like the rest of us?




PS, any answer containing the words "colonialism" or "racism" is unacceptable.

[mitchilin]

so you generalise about people's knowledge or lack thereof when you have no idea who they are, or what they actually know ? and you call me ignorant????

what the fuck would I know?

you mean apart from being married to a jew?



idiot

So fucking what!You're married to Jewish lady.What makes you think any hardship she may have endured gives you the right to speak on her behalf.Easy to be brave behind a keyboard.That doesn't give you any insights.And please,do you know any victims from the Holocaust?I do.You honestly think that being raised as a Jew today would be harder than being raised as Palestinian?Chosen....ppftttt

[Burrt Badger]

Waitangi Day should be a celebration of our Country, by ALL New Zealanders, but sadly it has been hijacked by the vocal minority and turned into a "bitch about whatever annoys you" day. Sod them all. Lets start our own tribe called "Ngati Kiwi", open to ALL Proud New Zealanders, regardless of race or creed, and then we can celebrate "Our Day" as a day of pride!!!!!!