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    2004 YZF R1

    I bought this bike new about 6 weeks ago. I bought it because I liked the looks, the reviews were awesome, and I wanted to ride the ultimate sports bike.
    I think I am just begining to get a bit stiff and sore on sports bikes as I get older and this will probably be the last super sports bike I have. WHen I saw one in my local dealer I traded in my ZX9r and took the plunge.

    So how is it? Well to be honest I am still a bit undecided. There is no question that this is one fast motorbike. There is also no question that I am no Rossi! I have had it on the track twice, I use it to commute to work and take it out at weekends for rides so I guess I have got a pretty good impression of it.

    SO let's break it down.

    Engine: Fast, big top end, reasonable grunt. Light vibes at cruising speeds, but just builds power progessively, above 7000 rpm it gets ferocious all the way to about 12500 rpm. I have actually done power wheelies on this bike, and beleive me I can not wheelie! In every gear accelerating hard the front end goes light and start to skip along the tarmac, or actually comes up and inch or so. So yes a good motor. The first time I gave it some stick after I ran it in, it took my breath away I actually giggled in my helmet like a silly school girl.

    Gearbox: occasionaly notchy, and the occasional false neutral. Generally slick and positive. FIrst gear is VERY tall, in my opinion too tall for the road, though good on the track.

    Brakes: everyone raves about these brakes. To be honest I think they are average, feel is ok, power is ok but not earth shattering by any stretch.

    Handling: On the track the bike obviously has more ability than I. I find though that the suspension is very firm on the road, and if you soften the suspension for the road you do loose that sense of being "wired." I am a little supsicious of the front end, yes it is flighty under hard acceleration , and it does flick about when you hit cats eyes etc, but that is no biggie. I have had a number of little front end slides (surely one of the most unpleasant feelings in biking!) which I find disconcerting. To be honest I put this down to the tyre. It is a dunlop 208 and is supposed to be super sticky but I think it is too slow to heat up and get sticky and if it is wet or cold it loses heat too quickly.

    Comfort: The position only makes sense when you are on the pace, otherwise it quickly becomes uncomfortable. I have riden more extreme bikes in this regard, but it is still pretty weight forward and legs tucked up etc. Wind protection is virtually nil unless you tuck your helmet into the very low screen.

    Other stuff: Pillion forget about it. Fuel economy is allright, the looks are cool. Induction roar at speed is neat. Carrying luggage is difficult. The instruments are excellent. Fuel injection seems to work very well, no choke etc, always starts first press of the tit.

    In conclusion: I am still undecided about this bike. In order to have fun or make true sense of this bike you have to go fast! I mean fast. This is what it is designed to do. As soon as you come off the pace (which is most of the time), it turns into a slightly uncomfortable means of transport. If I lived in Germany or some other country with autobahns, loads of long sweepers etc this bike would make more sense. In NZ with single carriage roads, often with grit, cows and bad drivers not to mention the inordinate amount of speed cops, you feel in the danger zone (for license and health) as soon as you give this bike some head.

    I am already begining to look at those water cooled Ducati monsters as a possible future bike.

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    A nice honest review, excellent.
    The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook.

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    Smile

    Thanks mate.

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    It is a dunlop 208 and is supposed to be super sticky but I think it is too slow to heat up and get sticky and if it is wet or cold it loses heat too quickly.

    Change those dunlop for a diablo corsa front and a diablo at the back and you will love you bike in a new way DUNLOPS ARE SHIT TYRES just changed mine to Pirelli and it made a big difference
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    Sounds about right, except...

    You can carry a pillion (all be it a small one ), and I have. Only thing is, the pillion scratches the beautiful paint around the pillion seat (which is very small). So, advice to would-be 04R1 owners, put some of that vinyl/clear coat stuff around there if you plan to ride 2 up. That way you can remove it, leaving it good as new. Oh, pillion must know how to ride 2 up, supporting themselved on the tank, or you're family jewels will suffer

    I'm not very good at writing bike reviews, but the smile on my face after a good ride should say it all. One of the points Yamaha makes is the instant and smooth power delivery helped by the fuel injection. The bikes optimum power is reached at about 12,500 rpm so they say, redlining at 13,750rpm, but you legally can never get it there. From memory, first gear can take you to 170km/h. Honestly ScumDog, I was only in first gear, I couldn't have been speeding! So yes, it has tall gears. The only problem I have with the gearbox, is in city bumper to bumper traffic. It isn't really an issue, you just need good clutch/throttle control, which after a long time become tiring. Out on the open road it's a dream. The notchyness Swannman is talking about is from the gearbox being new. The wearing in, and addition of synthetic oil after the run in do away with this issue.

    Coming from a 250, I can't comment convincingly on too many aspects of the bike. The brakes I find are more than enough for me, I never worry about not being able to stop. I have found though, while going down the Takas, in a right hand corner, if I brake the front shudders a little, sometime quite violently. But, I guess you shouldn't be braking IN corners anyway...

    In terms of comfort, it is no more, OR less comfortable than my CBR250. I can ride an easy 6 or even 8 hours (including the usual comfort stops), with the only discomfort being the USUAL sore wrist and arse which I got from my last bike. I think the lowering of the foot pegs from the previous models has helped heaps. Adding a double bubble will help to alleviate any annoying wind buffet, which I find is not that bad anyway (except at the sprints, and I assume the track)

    In my opinion, what sets this bike apart from the other equally good litre sports are, the looks. I honestly haven't seen a better looking bike. The only bikes coming close, or equal, are the Aprillia RSVR Factory and at a push, the Ducati 999R (while the "double story" headlights are ugly as hell, they grow on you, like a Ducati fungus). Ofcourse, these are opinions which differ between people, but it was my deciding factor.

    I am still getting to know the handling of mine. I don't feel confident as yet, to push it too far over, but that may be my inexperience, my recent bin or the fact that I haven't set up the suspension yet, which ideally needs to be done for every rider, as weight of rider is important. As I understand, suspension set up takes 2 people, and lots of fiddeling. So for now I'll leave it stock.

    Instruments are really good, with customizable backlight and gear change indicator light, stopwatch, tripA and tripB, air temp, engine temp, etc. But, NO fuel gauge which I find rather silly. Normally you need to fill up around the 220km mark, with reserve taking you I guess up to about 265kms.

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    Oh...

    I've just put Diablo Corsas on, so I'll be able to form an opinion shortly. One other thing, getting parts for this bike takes about 30 - 35 days shipping, if my current wait is anything to go by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneChucker
    I've just put Diablo Corsas on, so I'll be able to form an opinion shortly. One other thing, getting parts for this bike takes about 30 - 35 days shipping, if my current wait is anything to go by.
    Yamaha New Zealand were probably waiting for someone to break one so that they would know what parts to order in bulk. Your were probably the 'test case'

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    Haha

    Yamahaman, funny you should say that. I'm almost certain I'm the first 04R1 bin in NZ, thats AT LEAST some comfort
    I am waiting till I've been a member here for 125 days, so I can change my avatar text to... oh well, y'all have to wait and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneChucker
    I've just put Diablo Corsas on, so I'll be able to form an opinion shortly. One other thing, getting parts for this bike takes about 30 - 35 days shipping, if my current wait is anything to go by.

    I just put diablo's on and so far they are awesome
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    R1 comments

    Two good R1 reviews, I find the postion of the R6 fine, I also do rides of 6-8 hours and the odd 10 hour, have no problem with discomfort.

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    Sounds like good fun boys. 170kph in first sounds dangerous!

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    Double bubble screen

    I bought my new R1 from Red Baron recently. The deal included a 'DB screen as soon as they become available' but, so far, nothing happening. Do you know where I might get one from?

    The 'Fazersprog' moniker comes from my last bike, an FZ1 Fazer. Practical, stylish, fast as hell and great all-rounder. So why change to a mental bum in the air rocket-ship? Because I love this R1. Simple really.

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    Talk about thread resurrection, Swanmans' R1 bit the dust earlier this year, as did Stonechuckers'.
    Welcome to the site though Fazersprog
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    Ok im coming out of my closet just this one time , I too kinda have a curvy figure which makes it worse beacuse im a guy. Well the waist kinda goes in and the bum pushes out. When I was in college the girls in my year would slap me on the arse and squeeze because apparently it is firm, tight... I wear jeans
    .....if I find this as a signature Ill hunt you down, serious, capice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDTboy
    Talk about thread resurrection, Swanmans' R1 bit the dust earlier this year, as did Stonechuckers'.
    Welcome to the site though Fazersprog
    true, they both did unfortunately.. and they were both '04s I think..
    Welcome tho, and good luck

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    Argh, thread ressurectors. No wonder there are so many hayfever suffers
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    For the ashes of his fathers
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