Legalise Crystal Meth?

[kiwifruit]

No idea as to what you were referring to with your second comment re being stabbed and P. Maybe that people that stab others are on P?
Surely if that was your point then it was a piss take

it was my point and was not a piss take
aimed (more) at "p abusers" rather than "users"

[DMNTD:Me]

it was my point and was not a piss take
aimed (more) at "p abusers" rather than "users"

Why thank you...thank you very much!
That right there is the difference and yes I know that similar statements have been made in this thread.
I could introduce you to some people that partake in the consumption of meth and you would never know. A certain couple I know have been taking it for over 6 years that I know of and it hasn't effected their lives to any obvious extent....ie they are both professionals,parents(kids have no idea) and they've never robbed gas stations or stabbed people. They are the sort of people that most should aspire to be(not referring to their drug intake).

It just gets me a bit when some people assume that because someone may take part in some recreational drug in take on occasion that they must be like "those others".
It pisses me off even more when some fuck knuckle robs,hurts or whatever and then gets a lighter sentence because he/she "wouldn't have don't it if it wasn't for the P".

[vtec]

Here's one. Cause my evil bitch ex girlfriend was drug fucked by this particular substance, after her previous boyfriend plied her with it for a couple of years and boy did I cop it. Turns people into very self focussed psychopaths, oh yeah and she had no teeth... ahhahaaha.

[Mikkel]

Here's one. Cause my evil bitch ex girlfriend was drug fucked by this particular substance, after her previous boyfriend plied her with it for a couple of years and boy did I cop it. Turns people into very self focussed psychopaths, oh yeah and she had no teeth... ahhahaaha.

Good blowjobs?

Staggering amounts of compassion - I feel fuzzy and warm.

[CaMo]

If they are like alcohol, large numbers of harmless recreatonal users, and a small number of (highly publicised) addicts, then perhaps they should be legalised.

thats right, however there are still dick heads out there that will give anything a bad name.

Acid, mushrooms and cacti are all class A meaning harsh sentences. They are non addictive. Regular/experienced users are generally responsible and have a good time. People who just see it as another way to get "high" can be irresponsible, giving it a bad name.

I believe it is often the people who are taking the drugs that cause the problems not the drugs themselves. Drugs such as this often only appeal to certain people and there are obviously people who use these when they indeed shouldn't.

You can't have a law for certain people so they have to be banned all together.

Same goes for other drugs such as meth, coke, heroin etc etc...... There are people out there who can and do use them responsibly. However with these drugs there is a far greater chance of addiction and abuse...

If they were to legalize P then they may as well legalize all other drugs.... All drugs have the potential to harm but in the end it basically comes down to the user and how/where they are used.

What to legalise and what not is a tough one.

[SixPackBack]

What to legalise and what not is a tough one.

At a minimum decriminalisation of ALL drugs effective immediately. Cessation of patronising attitudes that the government seem to nurture, would also go along way to attitudinal adjustments that both its departments and the general public require.
[simply put, the government treats us like children and expects us to act like adults]

A reoccurring theme that crops up in many conversations concerning drugs is that of use/abuse. IF the public health sector dealt with drug abuse, guidelines could be set for acceptable use for virtually every compound known. Citizens would then be empowered to curb their habit or perhaps risk intervention. Furthermore a clear indication is set for a user to gauge control and effect. Naturally these guidelines would extend to popular and currently legal compounds such as tobaco.

Pouring shit loads more money into the health sector would be offset by removing current responsibility from the Police [and hence re-allocation of funds]. Added benefits to this would be [hopefully] more money in health and a more mature population responsible for their own actions.

[MIXONE]

a more mature population responsible for their own actions.

FFS back to planet earth.Were you ever a teenager?Did you ever want to try everything you could get your hands on and fuck the warnings?Make it easier to get and get more addicts I say.

[SPman]

Added benefits to this would be [hopefully] ...a more mature population responsible for their own actions.

Pshaw!

You're dreamin'.....


I agree with the reasoning though....

[SixPackBack]

It pisses me off even more when some fuck knuckle robs,hurts or whatever and then gets a lighter sentence because he/she "wouldn't have don't it if it wasn't for the P".

Agree 110%. Having been in some very sorry states in my life I can honestly say at all times my perception of 'right from wrong' was intact.

'fuck knuckles' robbing/stealing are the REAL focus of the Police. Not the hapless user hurting no one but themselves.

[CaMo]

FFS back to planet earth.Were you ever a teenager?Did you ever want to try everything you could get your hands on and fuck the warnings?Make it easier to get and get more addicts I say.

They should be educated better and not in the total bullshit way they did when I was at school. Half the facts you hear about certain drugs are just rumors spread by people who have no idea and just one opinion that - "DRUGS ARE BAD!!"

The government does treat people like kids but expect them to act like adults.

I like your views Sixpack

[SixPackBack]

FFS back to planet earth.Were you ever a teenager?Did you ever want to try everything you could get your hands on and fuck the warnings?Make it easier to get and get more addicts I say.

Abusing drugs because your a teenager is as lame as blaming drugs for stealing.
And no I didn't want to 'try everything'. I sunk into a pit of despair through lack of real knowledge, and once addicted, lack of real support.

Its easy to get some of the most questionable drugs now. Had I the desire, taking on the challenge of scoring 'P' would be an interesting exercise.

[scumdog]

To a certain extent I agree MIXONE. My brother-in law who I loved dearly, died after a two year binge on 'P'........he was 35....


[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Had the medical community [and not the Police] held the strings of power re: addiction, my brother-in-law would have found it far easier to get help without fear of recrimination.

The sill twat should never have started, he must have known it was like playing Russian roulette with one empty chamber and six loaded ones.

Sheesh!

(But then again, like a lot of the world he likely thought "it won't happen to me" when he heard of the downside, though at 35 he should have known better.)

[scumdog]

'fuck knuckles' robbing/stealing are the REAL focus of the Police. Not the hapless user hurting no one but themselves.

True - but there's a better than even chance the robber/stealer started out as a 'hapless user'.

[scumdog]

Added benefits to this would be [hopefully] more money in health and a more mature population responsible for their own actions.

Mwahahaha!

A shotload (read: majority) of my clients will NEVER take responsibilty for their own actions - and that is WITHOUT drugs, those on drugs are worse.

[scumdog]

On topics such as this, I tend to lean towards a more conservative view however, if legalising P would improve productivity and inject some enthusiasm into a rather mundane race of people, then I'm all for it.

Wake up NZ, take your P.

Fuck off.
We can't be bothered.