Legalise Crystal Meth?

[carver]

i just wonder if its as bad as its made out to be-courtesy of the media and antonie dixion

i used to work with someone who tried it once, and she didn't know what all the fuss was about.
but im guessing she didn't do a massive dose

[Titanium]

A major issue with a "P", ICE, Crystal Meth addiction is that there is CURRENTLY no know substitue to assist addicts with getting off the stuff.

With opiates, at least there is methadone, suboxone and bupomorphine as synthetic substitues to help treat the addicition.

Cold turkey and addressing drug use drivers are the only know ways to treat a "P" users addiction.

"P" is meant to stand for Pure Methamphetamine Hydrachloride, but it is anything but pure. It contains paint stripper, Isopropyl Alcohol, lighter fluid, caustic soda, draino, thinners etc .......

I deal daily with females, (currently approx 150 people) which have drug use related isssues, 20 + year olds that look 60 years old (after 18 months daily use of "P"), who have scratched their torso and arms raw to the flesh, then pic the scabs and eat them, as the myth is that you get a "second high" from the toxins in the scabs. They show no emotion and stare blankly into space, as the repeated use has killed off the natural dopamine production in the brain. It is not pretty!

http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/artic...amphetamine_hy

10 years of meth use http://www.methwatchwa.com/images/new.jpg

45 minute short film on ICE use in Australia ...http://www.journeyman.tv/?lid=56164

Early 30's first photo, 1 year of use, second photo 1.5 years later ....http://images.scotsman.com/2007/05/21/en21methb.jpg

"Meth Mouth" ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:S...th09-19-05.jpg
"Meth Mouth" ...... http://www.ada.org/public/topics/met...up_photo01.asp


Make it legal? I don't think so!

[carver]

A major issue with a "P", ICE, Crystal Meth addiction is that there is CURRENTLY no know substitue to assist addicts with getting off the stuff.

With opiates, at least there is methadone, suboxone and bupomorphine as synthetic substitues to help treat the addicition.

Cold turkey and addressing drug use drivers are the only know ways to treat a "P" users addiction.

"P" is meant to stand for Pure Methamphetamine Hydrachloride, but it is anything but pure. It contains paint stripper, Isopropyl Alcohol, lighter fluid, caustic soda, draino, thinners etc .......

I deal daily with females, (currently approx 150 people) which have drug use related isssues, 20 + year olds that look 60 years old (after 18 months daily use of "P"), who have scratched their torso and arms raw to the flesh, then pic the scabs and eat them, as the myth is that you get a "second high" from the toxins in the scabs. They show no emotion and stare blankly into space, as the repeated use has killed off the natural dopamine production in the brain. It is not pretty!

http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/artic...amphetamine_hy

10 years of meth use http://www.methwatchwa.com/images/new.jpg

Make it legal? I don't think so!

here is a interesting question

if it was made legal, could you make actual pure meth?
could it be refined to make it lesas harmfull, a bit like a more pure grade of heroin gives you a smoother trip?
i do know its nasty stuff, i have seen the effects, we had one of the biggest dealers a few houses away, and users down the street a little way.
it was chilling shit, but bear in mind, all this happened while it was very illegal.
so as we all know, current laws do not stop meth, so what can be done?

[doc]

here is a interesting question

if it was made legal, could you make actual pure meth?
could it be refined to make it lesas harmfull, a bit like a more pure grade of heroin gives you a smoother trip?
i do know its nasty stuff, i have seen the effects, we had one of the biggest dealers a few houses away, and users down the street a little way.
it was chilling shit, but bear in mind, all this happened while it was very illegal.
so as we all know, current laws do not stop meth, so what can be done?

Cut out the middle man and just put the resources into suicide booths. Save the pain for the families.

[carver]

Cut out the middle man and just put the resources into suicide booths. Save the pain for the families.

your not reading what im saying

consider it

[scrivy]

Fuck the lab drugs.
I get my highs from doing 200+ km wheelies!! Who wants a dose with me??
I guess they too are illegal. Oh fu@k, how am I s'posed to get me high legally??
I guess if I keep it up, I'll be going to jail too!!!

Buggar!

[doc]

your not reading what im saying

consider it

The purer the substance the quicker the addiction the bigger the damage.
Tobacco is legal, how may Dairies get robbed for just the Tobacco

[doc]

Fuck the lab drugs.
I get my highs from doing 200+ km wheelies!! Who wants a dose with me??
I guess they too are illegal. Oh fu@k, how am I s'posed to get me high legally??
I guess if I keep it up, I'll be going to jail too!!!

Buggar!

Yep they are after you to have you heard of OSH

[BIHB@0610]

Oh fu@k, how am I s'posed to get me high legally??


Buggar!

Um ...... well some people try having sex, Scrivy. With a female........

[SixPackBack]

Why the fuck do you think the Police are asking for more firepower.

Escalation. Yeah right, that always works. Proof positive the issue is not under control.

[doc]

Escalation. Yeah right, that always works. Proof positive the issue is not under control.

Isn't it just like Evolution ?

Neither is the public, Greens and the Liberals . Bring back Muldoon

Cmon you must feel safer.

[scrivy]

Yep they are after you to have you heard of OSH

Can't I hurt myself without having OSH tell me I can't?? Abit like this thread eh?!

Um ...... well some people try having sex, Scrivy. With a female........

Try to have sex??? Try??? Trying to have sex with a female - you mean two females???????? Now i'd pay to see that!! Oh shit, is that illegal yet???

[Mikkel]

A major issue with a "P", ICE, Crystal Meth addiction is that there is CURRENTLY no know substitue to assist addicts with getting off the stuff.

With opiates, at least there is methadone, suboxone and bupomorphine as synthetic substitues to help treat the addicition.

Cold turkey and addressing drug use drivers are the only know ways to treat a "P" users addiction.

"P" is meant to stand for Pure Methamphetamine Hydrachloride, but it is anything but pure. It contains paint stripper, Isopropyl Alcohol, lighter fluid, caustic soda, draino, thinners etc .......

I deal daily with females, (currently approx 150 people) which have drug use related isssues, 20 + year olds that look 60 years old (after 18 months daily use of "P"), who have scratched their torso and arms raw to the flesh, then pic the scabs and eat them, as the myth is that you get a "second high" from the toxins in the scabs. They show no emotion and stare blankly into space, as the repeated use has killed off the natural dopamine production in the brain. It is not pretty!

http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/artic...amphetamine_hy

10 years of meth use http://www.methwatchwa.com/images/new.jpg

45 minute short film on ICE use in Australia ...http://www.journeyman.tv/?lid=56164

Early 30's first photo, 1 year of use, second photo 1.5 years later ....http://images.scotsman.com/2007/05/21/en21methb.jpg

"Meth Mouth" ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:S...th09-19-05.jpg
"Meth Mouth" ...... http://www.ada.org/public/topics/met...up_photo01.asp


Make it legal? I don't think so!

here is a interesting question

if it was made legal, could you make actual pure meth?
could it be refined to make it lesas harmfull, a bit like a more pure grade of heroin gives you a smoother trip?
i do know its nasty stuff, i have seen the effects, we had one of the biggest dealers a few houses away, and users down the street a little way.
it was chilling shit, but bear in mind, all this happened while it was very illegal.
so as we all know, current laws do not stop meth, so what can be done?

Indeed - what a lot of people forget is that the price of pure drugs drives people out on the edge economically, they turn criminal to fund their habit and have to settle for impure drugs in order to keep the habit going.

Truth be told, all the crap that goes in there to stretch, cut or whatever you might call it has a worse effect on the body than the drug itself.

Sure, the pure stuff will get you hooked faster - but it won't fuck your body as bad as acetone, paint stripper, you fucking name it.

A lot of peoples lives, physically, mentally, professionally, permanently get destroyed by drug addiction. But remember, it's not just the drug addiction - it also has a lot to do with all the things that comes with that.

Just consider for a moment - really stop and consider it for 10 seconds - what if we could some how minimise the impact of those side effects by accepting that drug addiction is a real and persistent problem - and then acting upon that?

[Gubb]

Worst. Troll. Ever.

I'm surprised it has gone on for 11 pages now.

[scumdog]

Just consider for a moment - really stop and consider it for 10 seconds - what if we could some how minimise the impact of those side effects by accepting that drug addiction is a real and persistent problem - and then acting upon that?

Just consider for a minute: How about those with the loser gene didn't bother taking the effin shit just for a start, they would be ahead right from the get-go.....