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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Why do you associate discipline with the infliction of pain??



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrowhawk View Post
    IMHO there's a huge difference between 'hitting' and 'smaking'. Hitting a kid, eg. punching, no need for it. A smack on the hand or the bum, no problem

    "but what about the emotional impact" the holier-than-thou's exclaim?

    What about the emotional impact of time out? Don't try and bullshit me and say there isn't any. Or the emotional impact of no discipline? Screwed up kids that will get a rude awakening when they hit the real world, 'coz employers won't take the shit and backtalk that their parents can't deal with, and they'll get fired.

    And yeah, I've got two kids, a 2 year old & a 6 year old, and yeah, they get a light smack when they need it. I use time out & removing toys etc too, but with a two year old, you sometimes need to get the message through. Like has been said already, if a toddler is putting things in wall sockets, playing with heaters etc., they need to have it associated with pain. I'd rather that pain be for 20 seconds from a smack on the hand than from a bad burn.

    Rant over

    Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly before - this is what I meant. There is a clear difference between "hitting" and "smacking".

    And it's also true that discipline does not always involve physical affliction. Some kids just need a damn good telling off.

    I guess it's about finding a balance, really. The extreme of beating the shit out of a kid who does something wrong is cruel and barbaric. But the other extreme, of sitting there and going "my child is such a precious little perfect who never ever does anything wrong ever" and letting them get away scot free with EVERYTHING, is also wrong.
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    OMG He flicked the child in the ear!!! What an abusive parent! He could of killed the poor kid i hope that man gets what he deserves! What a dispicable act of child abuse its a good thing that the government has these laws in place or many other parents could be flicking there children in the ears! They have no idea the physical and mental dammage it can cause to there fragile bodies and minds!
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    Fucking lesbian liberal tree hugging amoral bitches wouldn't understand the word "violence" it it stood up and hit them in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGazza84 View Post
    Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly before - this is what I meant. There is a clear difference between "hitting" and "smacking".
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    AAh, when a baby is born, the doctor used to" smack" that baby......
    But when Sue Breadbox was born the doctor wanted to "hit" the mother.....

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    Person who lightly smacks their children comes under police scrutiny, sweating over whether they will exercise their discretion and not prosecute.

    Compare and contrast with man who beats seven colours out of his kids...and gets a 6 month sentence reduction. http://stuff.co.nz/4500292a12855.html

    Thanks Labour for another BIG reason not to vote for you.

    And if you think it's not Labour doing this, then look no further than the tipping upside down of the justice system away from focusing on the victim and punishing criminals, to helping the offender and giving them underfloor heating, XBox and 42" plasma TVs to 'rehabilitate' them...that's really gonna encourage them not to reoffend, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGazza84 View Post
    Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly before - this is what I meant. There is a clear difference between "hitting" and "smacking".
    To hit someone you strike them and to smack some one you strike them.


    Yep that's clear. Sorted


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    whats happened to the parents right to disipline there child as they see fit as the kid was beeing rude a quick clip across the ear prob sorted. mine did it to me when thet thought i deserved it hasnt hurt me at all taught me what the boundaries of accetable behaviour is and what wasnt tolerated at all.

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    Although we may disagree about approach and the emphasis on legislating correct behaviour (which historically has always been unsuccessful), the problem is not likely to be the "reasonable" parents who participate in this forum... whichever side of the legislative divide we come down upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    To hit someone you strike them and to smack some one you strike them.


    Yep that's clear. Sorted


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    Say what you will but there is a difference. And if you don't believe me read the examples in this thread where people talk about being disciplined by a "clip across the ear" as insane1 said. Is he saying that he was viciously abused? no, he was actually saying it did him good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGazza84 View Post
    Say what you will but there is a difference. And if you don't believe me read the examples in this thread where people talk about being disciplined by a "clip across the ear" as insane1 said. Is he saying that he was viciously abused? no, he was actually saying it did him good.
    Don't worry mate, you are right.
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