Any body had anything to do with these jackets, seem cheap @$135 but are they any good?
Any body had anything to do with these jackets, seem cheap @$135 but are they any good?
As in all things you get what you pay for.Can you remember the ad that went something along the lines of 'Got a fifty dollar head?Get a fifty dollar helmet"
It always makes me laugh that people who say "you get what you pay for" never seem to think that maybe the retailer has heard that one tooQuoting advertising after that just makes me wonder more...
I use to manage an appliance store where we stocked what was probably the lowest cost washing machine around, and it was a good machine, did the job well, hardly ever broke down, and parts were cheap when it did. We sold stuff all of them, until one day I decided to bump the price up $200 to make it the same price as the cheapest I'd seen competitors machines of around the same quality (but broke down more, and parts weren't worth buying), and suddenly I couldn't keep enough of the things in stock.
Anyway, back to what you asked. Unless someone has owned one, or you can have a look you can't really know. Ignore the "RRP" on anything you can't find in stores or at least someone else selling online, if they are the only importer they set the rrp, so really it means nothing. Quite a few trademe importers/seller try that one on.
I know we do the same with our products sometimes putting the price up to sell them (makes people think they are a better product than they are) and some times dropping the price...
Not only since we import we know the true price of the product... and what people are sell them at... :shock:
I bought a REALLY cheap helmet the other day on Trademe, and it was REALLY flimsy and light and useless. It had all the NZ safety stickers on it but I returned it and got my money back. I reckon they were fake stickers.
Determined to kill my bike before it kills me
Reverse psychology - works almost every time...
I like to try gear on before I buy, so I almost never buy clothing on-line. That would include helmets and the like. I find that if the fit isn't right it just too much hassle when you have to return stuff, so now I tend to just look in the shops. Having said that, shop around!
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I hear what your saying. Brian Bernard told a group of us who attended a training day at Manfield a couple of years ago now. That $10 heads fit perfectly in $10 helmets. How very true. We spend thousands on a bike. Then go and buy a El cheapo skid lid. Don't make sense to me. I agree always try a helmet before you buy one. Never buy from on auction.
Getting back on track If you have a return policy with the people selling the Jackets then go for it. As the Pakistanis, Indians and the Chinese are making 90% of jackets we wear now. And some of the leather and craftsmanship is as good as anything the big boys like Alpine-stars are bringing in. If the truth's known they will have probably be made in the countries I have mentioned. So bikers are only paying for the name at huge inflated prices..
being in the Business (as you all know) and having visited the countries where most of our gear is made I understand VERY well the price vs Quality issue on leathers, I can say alot about this matter but wont as Its sounds like bad mouthing a competitor (however we arent in the bottom end of the market) but I will say this, you simply CANNOT make a quality jacket with QUALITY components for this sought of money, something must give, either the leather, the stitching, the armour, or a combination of any or all of the above, I will say that I prefer none of you to find out which ones have been missed out as you will only find out after a crash.
If you want cheap, you get cheap, if you want qulaity protection, spend the money, if you want quality protection and have no money talk to me I have lots of bits and bobs lying around that I will be happy to sell cheap to you.
I hope I didnt come across negative, but safety is my business
Ive run out of fucks to give
Youre on the money there, the quality out of the above countries (bar China in my view) is very good. The Pakistan Leather is the best however assumming its A grade cowhide which in this subject it wouldnt be Im sure,
For your info we get most of our leather ex South Africa and Australia for various reasons.
Interestingly Alpinestar has alot of gear made in these countries also, but that shouldnt matter because the general quality standards will be audited
by the brand (how good the quality standards are though is another subject)
Ive run out of fucks to give
Yes. That one in fact, was started by Bell Helmets when their sales were dropping because their helmets were so much dearer than others at the time (in the '70s, I think), especially when the first of the injection-moulded helmets were coming on the market. Of course, they were MUCH cheaper to produce than Bell's hand-laid fibreglass shells.
In my case, a $50 helmet would be overcapitalising my head by about $40.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....![]()
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