More babies

**Hitcher** · 19th February 2008, 08:54

Originally Posted by 007XX

I personally fully support Dargor in his choice not to reproduce

Dargor's *stable door* clearly needs some attention...

**Hitcher** · 19th February 2008, 08:56

Originally Posted by faredce

u add a baby to the world the weight increases.

It is as I predicted. Gahhh! Thud.

**faredce** · 19th February 2008, 09:07

Originally Posted by Clockwork

A child grows because it eats and everything it consumes is of this earth either dirrectly or indirectly. Therefore, net mass gain of planet. Zip!

I'm not saying that the earth isn't getting heavier, I guess there are meteors falling somewhere most of the time but other than that the only other thing arriving is energy ie sunlight, radio waves etc. And that has no mass.

lol im talking about the birth of a child not the growth of the child over time

so u are only going to admit that meteors are the only thing adding weight to our planet. all other growth is neutralized by what we eat.

2000 years ago the world population was like 230 million so with a 30x increase this has not effected the planets weight?? any weight is simply...meteors

not being a dick just trying to see how u think

**ElCoyote** · 19th February 2008, 09:11

Originally Posted by MotoGirl

I've love to see the statistics broken down by ethnicity. I question whether the European women would be pumping out as many babies as some of the other ethnicities NZ keeps importing.

+1 kid, now convince Uncle Helen

**Grahameeboy** · 19th February 2008, 09:13

I guess we need to establish whether the previous years were lower than normal before. If they were then the claimed increase is really just back to normal...

So really the number of births has been lower for the last 40 years and has now increased...

**Beemer** · 19th February 2008, 09:34

I wouldn't mind people breeding if they all did a good job of looking after their kids. There are some people with more than half a dozen kids who look after them all and teach them respect, and there are people with only one kid who abuse it/kill it/never give it any love or affection, etc. I still think you should have to prove you are a fit person to have children because they are such a huge responsibility. They don't trust you to vote or drink until you are 18 but if you drop out a sprog earlier than that you get rewarded with a hand out.

I don't think NZ is going to become overpopulated any time soon but perhaps we could look at limiting the type of people we let into the country and not being so generous to those who breed. It's a lifestyle choice just like drinking or playing pokies, so why should they be rewarded? Yes, I realise people need to breed to replace the ones who die, but I know of people who have four kids to four different fathers and they aren't even 30 yet. Great life ahead and a great role model to boot!

**007XX** · 19th February 2008, 09:36

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Dargor's *stable door* clearly needs some attention...

Hmmm...Wait til our infamous Nymph gets a hold of this thread...*gah...thud* galore.

**Finn** · 19th February 2008, 09:41

The problem in NZ is that the wrong people are breeding too much. Helen's "cash for kids" accelerated this. It scares me to think what NZ will be like in 20 years.

**faredce** · 19th February 2008, 09:44

Originally Posted by Beemer

I wouldn't mind people breeding if they all did a good job of looking after their kids. There are some people with more than half a dozen kids who look after them all and teach them respect, and there are people with only one kid who abuse it/kill it/never give it any love or affection, etc. I still think you should have to prove you are a fit person to have children because they are such a huge responsibility. They don't trust you to vote or drink until you are 18 but if you drop out a sprog earlier than that you get rewarded with a hand out.

I don't think NZ is going to become overpopulated any time soon but perhaps we could look at limiting the type of people we let into the country and not being so generous to those who breed. It's a lifestyle choice just like drinking or playing pokies, so why should they be rewarded? Yes, I realise people need to breed to replace the ones who die, but I know of people who have four kids to four different fathers and they aren't even 30 yet. Great life ahead and a great role model to boot!

bingo!
on the money mate well said

**Ocean1** · 19th February 2008, 09:54

Originally Posted by Finn

It scares me to think what NZ will be like in 20 years.

Quite.

We might be subjected to rabid postulations on the effect of rampant and widespread Coitus Uninterruptus on planetary ecology.

**Dargor** · 19th February 2008, 10:10

Originally Posted by macktheknife

This seems to me a misinformed, misled point of view.
Your argument is based on misleading statistics with several significant flaws. You have generalised an argument based on regional specifics and applied it to our local situation which is dramatically different.

So my view that its an issue we need to look at and prepare for is misled by the stats i didn't look at very hard. Even though those stats lie. Maybe you should look at some more stats

In NZ we actually need a higher birth rate than we currently have. We have had a declining birth rate for over 10 years, and coupled with a rapidly ageing population we are heading for a serious problem in the next 20-30 years.

I dont know where you got that idea. At least I have references for my *misinformed, misled point of view*

Originally Posted by beemer

I still think you should have to prove you are a fit person to have children because they are such a huge responsibility. They don't trust you to vote or drink until you are 18 but if you drop out a sprog earlier than that you get rewarded with a hand out.

I really like this idea also, but it sure isn't happening under any of our current governments.

**Clockwork** · 19th February 2008, 10:35

Originally Posted by faredce

lol im talking about the birth of a child not the growth of the child over time

so u are only going to admit that meteors are the only thing adding weight to our planet. all other growth is neutralized by what we eat.

2000 years ago the world population was like 230 million so with a 30x increase this has not effected the planets weight?? any weight is simply...meteors

not being a dick just trying to see how u think

Look, this is kind of off topic but I will have one last go at this...

Before a child is "birthed" it has grown as a consequence of what its Mother consumed, which as I stated before, is entirely of this earth either directly or indirectly.

I'll simply repeat my original question to you. Where would you suppose all this additional matter comes from?