Ultimate F3?

**Dodgy** · 25th February 2008, 19:03

Originally Posted by mynameis

In my opinion the RS250 would be the best choice to race as they are light, suspension is great, brakes are awesome and the handling is a dream.

Why not a RS 250? I don't think there are many on the RS in F3 right?

Dude, WTF?? 250 GP bikes (RS Honda, TZ Yamaha, etc) are F2 bikes

! You are right tho, they would do well in F3

Oh yeah, and the RS125 frame of course was changed in 1997, it had bracing added down the engine mount rails

**Toast** · 25th February 2008, 19:55

Originally Posted by Dodgy

Dude, WTF?? 250 GP bikes (RS Honda, TZ Yamaha, etc) are F2 bikes

! You are right tho, they would do well in F3

Oh yeah, and the RS125 frame of course was changed in 1997, it had bracing added down the engine mount rails

Pretty sure they're F3 bikes:

See part 1

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...egulations.pdf

**k14** · 25th February 2008, 20:00

There is a bit of confusion I think between an aprilia RS250 (which is a production 250 and can race in F3) and a honda RS250 which is a GP bike and only eligible for F2. A RS250 frame with an engine transplant is however allowed in F3 I believe.

**mynameis** · 25th February 2008, 22:24

Originally Posted by Dodgy

Dude, WTF?? 250 GP bikes (RS Honda, TZ Yamaha, etc) are F2 bikes

! You are right tho, they would do well in F3

Oh yeah, and the RS125 frame of course was changed in 1997, it had bracing added down the engine mount rails

Originally Posted by k14

There is a bit of confusion I think between an aprilia RS250 (which is a production 250 and can race in F3) and a honda RS250 which is a GP bike and only eligible for F2. A RS250 frame with an engine transplant is however allowed in F3 I believe.

Pwnd ya n0o0b I am talking about Aprilia RS 250

Not Honda race RS 250.

**koba** · 26th February 2008, 09:18

Seems like a great bike.
I want one.
Hopefully Aprillia will see enough interest to produce somthing similar.
It would have a strong market being light and good for small people (Think Cagiva raptor) while still being fast and agile. Probably lovley power deliver too.

**mynameis** · 26th February 2008, 10:40

Originally Posted by koba

Seems like a great bike.
I want one.
Hopefully Aprillia will see enough interest to produce somthing similar.
It would have a strong market being light and good for small people (Think Cagiva raptor) while still being fast and agile. Probably lovley power deliver too.

Still don't understand why they aren't being used over ZXR 400 and SV 650 aye.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 26th February 2008, 10:48

Originally Posted by ardomus

Does anyone know more about the new KTM sportbike soon to be relaesed...from what i read it looks like a single cyclinder 80hp sport bike..could be good f3 bike????

me too!

http://www.ktm690duke.com/

LC4 Duke I think its called. I emailed the importer and the useless fuckers didnt even respond to my email.

cocks.

the good thinga bout the KTM is you could run it in Bears as well.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 26th February 2008, 10:55

actually you could with the Aprilia also.

It looks like what the Aprilia guy has done is what the 450moto guys do: new front forks, existing wheels, shorter shock add clipons and fairing: instant racebike.

**koba** · 26th February 2008, 11:54

Originally Posted by mynameis

Still don't understand why they aren't being used over ZXR 400 and SV 650 aye.

What is they? a raptor?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...861451.htm?p=2

Compared to say this as an SV650 starting point.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...htm?key=306598

$6000 Dollars may have somthing to do with it...

**HenryDorsetCase** · 26th February 2008, 14:03

that SV will owe you near $10k on the track:

$6000 to buy.
$500tyres
$1500 shock
$1200fork rebuild/emulators/springs
PC3/dyno time/pipe say $2k
race bodywork say $500 plus fitting.

plus you need some spares.

You are MUCH better off buying one already done.

or the KTM which has white power both ends.

**mynameis** · 26th February 2008, 16:24

Originally Posted by koba

What is they? a raptor?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...861451.htm?p=2

Compared to say this as an SV650 starting point.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...htm?key=306598

$6000 Dollars may have somthing to do with it...

Wrong you're on about something else read my previous post.

**koba** · 26th February 2008, 18:06

Originally Posted by mynameis

Wrong you're on about something else read my previous post.

oh, sorry bout that. Referace to the subject woulkd help tho coz just looking at this thread amkes my brain spin with Rs250's Sv 650s, honda Rs250s, Ktm Blah blahhs and oh god its all too much for me..!

Maybe the APRILLIA RS250 aint favoured so much because they aren't as common, are pretty expensive to buy official bits for at least, are 2 strokes and aint quite as light as they are made out to be. Off the shelf I think they actually weigh in at over 160kg.

SV 650 is a plug and play bike, especially with the new pro-twins class. buy, strip, wire and race. There was even one with a plate still on the back at nations in the weekend going faster than I Imagine a similar cost RS250 would muster with the same rider.

Thats not to say It wouldn't be the way I would go about an F3 effort if I won the Lotto!

If it was powerball I would think about making my own version of the bike this thread is supposed to be about

**Deano** · 26th February 2008, 18:16

Originally Posted by mynameis

Still don't understand why they aren't being used over ZXR 400 and SV 650 aye.

I got beaten fair and square by a 91-94 RGV250 at Paeroa. I'm sure it had been fettled with though. (It had similar corner exit acceleration and higher top end.)

I was battling (and mostly beating) 90 RGV's and other 250 2 strokes in VMCC so it was a bit of a surpirise.

I'm sure the SV is going to be more reliable than a 2 stroke though.