Open-face helmets?

[heyjoe]

So you go flying head first into a car, and you reckon the helmet is too dangerous????

did you also go buy a scooter (or a car)?

No mate, I never said my old open face helmet was dangerous. I just said I opted to go for a full face helmet after that incident. The thing that was dangerous was the driver of the Subaru who turned right directly in front of me without giving way, without indicating and (as she says) without seeing me (even though my motorbike had its headlights on).

Still riding.

[swbarnett]

On the road - ANY road I would hate to pick to odds of walking away from a 140kph off regardless of what I was wearing.

I know of one rider that came away relatively unscathed from a 330kph head-on (assuming the car was doing 100kph).

- most people (especially bikers ) are NOT responsible

Just because you're not responsible doesn't mean others aren't.

- and I kinda like that...

On the one hand you want people to be "responsible" and not pass an arbitrarily set speed limit and on the other you like the fact that people aren't responsible. Which is it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fuck it, another bang on the head and I'll probably be one of those people drooling and masturbating in public anyway.....

I already am and I tell you, its fantastic!

My vote would be Davida Jet also. I am seriously looking at buying the Mike Hailwood rep one.

[James Deuce]

I know of one rider that came away relatively unscathed from a 330kph head-on (assuming the car was doing 100kph).

Yes and I didn;t walk away from a less than 50km/hr one.

[swbarnett]

Yes and I didn;t walk away from a less than 50km/hr one.

Which proves my point. It's not speed.

[James Deuce]

Which proves my point. It's not speed.

No it doesn't, and an open face helmet would have made no difference in the accident I'm talking about.

All my response to your subjective point proves is some people are lucky and some aren't. Empirical data tends to be less equivocal and would indicate that risk increases in proportion to the forces involved in an accident. Velocity has a nasty tendency to make force increase dramatically.

Until the "driver training programme sponsored by Labour party voters" is in place and the majority of road users have been through it, the speed limit should be dropped to a blanket 50 km/hr. There will still be people that can't cope with 50 km/hr though.

[Paul in NZ]

Which proves my point. It's not speed.

It 'proves' nothing and what point? That its OK for 'some' superiour skilled, responsible people to speed on the open road if they have all the best gear? Thats not going to happen....

[Big Dave]

It 'proves' nothing and what point? That its OK for 'some' superiour skilled, responsible people to speed on the open road if they have all the best gear? Thats not going to happen....

I'd vote for it though.

Morons: slow the f*** down. Then - every stupid thing they get caught doing - we remove a spark plug. yes, I know - cheeenius.

[Paul in NZ]

Too many morons think they are skilled Dave. The best bet is to get the franchise to do the testing and fail the lot of em leaving you and your fellow 'instructors' as the only qualified people... hmmm...

[MisterD]

Velocity has a nasty tendency to make force increase dramatically.

Science alert.

Kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the velocity.

[fergie]

as usual we have drifted off subject, but my ten cents worth, whatever spins ya wheels!. i have both but tend to use the full face more. had a mate who slid along the road in his open face and still have visions of the mangeled mess his face was and still is 20 years later.

[James Deuce]

Science alert.

Kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the velocity.

I'm alerted! And alarmed.

I may have to lie down.

[MisterD]

I may have to lie down.

Good call, it's Friday afternoon after all...

[NordieBoy]

I'd vote for it though.

Morons: slow the f*** down. Then - every stupid thing they get caught doing - we remove a spark plug. yes, I know - cheeenius.

Yay for twin plug heads

[twotyred]

what are opinions on them from people here, brands etc good, bad or indifferent?????

I bet your sorry you asked about the safety aspects of open fa... oh wait!... you didn't!....

If you've got the readies go for Davida... or if you are into classic bikes and like the 60's look take a look at Cromwell hurricane/spitfire.
I tried one on and found it to be the most comfortable OF helmet I've ever tried