super motards at the cemetery circuit

[scrivy]

people go to the streets for the specticale, and the variety of bikes and classes, and the fact they are promoted properly helps a shit laod as.......

thier is a national road race in my home town this weekend, no local promotion has gone on, hopefully thier will be an article in the local paper tomorrow,

Hold on..... we all lost our prizemoney to help advertise the Nationals supposedly.... has there been nothing advertised about Puke in Auckland?

[scrivy]

with the pits in the current position and see no problem with it except the crowd getting in the way on the way to the dummy grid quote from kickaha


so what about the extra time invloved with them where they are, ie 3/4 lap return time instead of 1/2 a lap. 1/2 a lap more to get to the grids? times this by 18 races and it gobbles a lot of time up...

Would it not matter where you put the pits - the time taken to get to the start line and time taken to get back to the pits would be the same no matter where the pits were??
As for gobbling up time, the Manfeild round of the Nationals had us doing a full complete cool down lap!

[jellywrestler]

Would it not matter where you put the pits - the time taken to get to the start line and time taken to get back to the pits would be the same no matter where the pits were??
As for gobbling up time, the Manfeild round of the Nationals had us doing a full complete cool down lap!

not so. after a race theres less than half a lap and if there's an incident on the esses or roberts island traffic can still get to the pits. for the warm up riders either dont get a full lap of have to do nearly two. in the old spot riders did half a lap before one full warm up lap. it may not seem different but the ergonomics are. over so many races.
but i welcome discussions

[Kickaha]

with the pits in the current position and see no problem with it except the crowd getting in the way on the way to the dummy grid

so what about the extra time invloved with them where they are, ie 3/4 lap return time instead of 1/2 a lap. 1/2 a lap more to get to the grids? times this by 18 races and it gobbles a lot of time up...

With the pits in the railway yard (i'm assuming this is near the off road section) my understanding is the start finish was always in the same place as it is now, so unless there was only 1/2 a lap warm up to get to the dummy grid rather than 1-1/2 laps, you wouldn't be saving much

classes
1000cc
600cc
F3
Sidecars
Post Classic
Motards (one class)

cancel BEARs as it just becoming another motard class anyway and run 3 races per class

[ArcherWC]

Hold on..... we all lost our prizemoney to help advertise the Nationals supposedly.... has there been nothing advertised about Puke in Auckland?

If I wasnt a biker, I would know NOTHING about the nationals this weekend.

There has been absolutly NO advertising in Auckland.

VERY poor effort

[bistard]

lots of thoughts but not really much in the way of facts. what about some reasoning behind some of these thoughts? eg put the pits back in the rail yeards.
great but why????

keep em coming

Pits in the Railyards,much more space for competitors,I believe safer,for all concerned,dummy grid one one side of the road & entry the other side, Hey it worked very well for the previous 45 years or so

[Shaun]

I asked the Wanganui M/C Club a few years ago now, WHY are we in different pit area these days?

They told, it was because of INSURANCE ISSUES!

BULLSHIT, if there were any Insurance issues, HOW THE HELL CAN THEY HAVE CHOOK CHASERS hooning through there?

The new pit area is way more DANGEROUS than the old, and it is also very difficult on accasions, due to the paying fans being able to wandering around at will the way they do

[Robert Taylor]

I asked the Wanganui M/C Club a few years ago now, WHY are we in different pit area these days?

They told, it was because of INSURANCE ISSUES!

BULLSHIT, if there were any Insurance issues, HOW THE HELL CAN THEY HAVE CHOOK CHASERS hooning through there?

The new pit area is way more DANGEROUS than the old, and it is also very difficult on accasions, due to the paying fans being able to wandering around at will the way they do

Jeez Shaun, youre getting as opinionated as me, careful!

[scott411]

I asked the Wanganui M/C Club a few years ago now, WHY are we in different pit area these days?

They told, it was because of INSURANCE ISSUES!

BULLSHIT, if there were any Insurance issues, HOW THE HELL CAN THEY HAVE CHOOK CHASERS hooning through there?

The new pit area is way more DANGEROUS than the old, and it is also very difficult on accasions, due to the paying fans being able to wandering around at will the way they do

Shaun, until you run an event, you have no idea how fucked up some relationships with land owners and stupid things you have to do to get events to happen, i would presume that someone that owns the rail yards did not think their insurance would cover that, i have had similar things with land owners, i think it is the land owners way to get thier way to get things, some things do not make sense, but you haev to do them to appease people,

i would hate to imagine the shit and paperwork you would have to go though to run a street race, thier is reason's so many have been and gone, because its hard frustrating work it, with little in the way of thanks because every bastard has a negitive opinion on something you haev done,

Similar situation is the fact the fire extingusihers in the forest rule, they are so small they would not do anything, yet every rider has to carry them, stupid rule, but its thier forest we are alouf to ride in,

as for closed pits, their are fores and negitives to both, some fans love it, but i am a bit with you, its a nightmare when you are riding, and trying to get to the dummy grid or back to the pits,

[scott411]

classes
1000cc
600cc
F3
Sidecars
Post Classic
Motards (one class)

you look at the numbers and post classics had the least riders of any class, so they should be dropped before bears?? (check mylaps.com only 15 riders)

to be honest i agree with you, the 600's should have their own race,

and bears needs to go as well, it is only kept alive because they allow cross entereing in that class only, i can not see why i should be discrimated against due to the fact i ride a jap bike, (bears only meetings are a different kettle of fish by the way)

[Shaun]

Jeez Shaun, youre getting as opinionated as me, careful!

Perhaps that comes from coming from the same home town, and working together for so long eh

As people on here and around the scene get to KNOW you better Robert, they will start to understand your opinions more, your;e an intelligent educated buisness man, and as some of your posts show, you do a LOT OF THINKING ( OFTEN WAY TO MUCH MATE)

I see you pushing your buisness on here big time, and well done for joining in on the scene here on KBIKER:Pun Some people may think that you are only pushing your product for MONEY, MAYBE? NO! I know you love what you do

But people like me that do know you well, Know that your intensions are all good


PS, very well done on suppling TEAM YOSHIMURA SUZUKI AUSTRALIA with shit hot fork settings, that created a new lap record and race wins with Sean Giles on the weekend

[Shaun]

Shaun, until you run an event, you have no idea how fucked up some relationships with land owners and stupid things you have to do to get events to happen, i would presume that someone that owns the rail yards did not think their insurance would cover that, i have had similar things with land owners, i think it is the land owners way to get thier way to get things, some things do not make sense, but you haev to do them to appease people,


IF SO, how did the insurance work then, to allow the DIRT bikes through the yard?


as for closed pits, their are fores and negitives to both, some fans love it, but i am a bit with you, its a nightmare when you are riding, and trying to get to the dummy grid or back to the pits,

I know the fans love it, but we do have a thing in NZ these days call OSH! So what is going to happen, if a fan gets hurt in the pits, where a club is making money? and riders are making money if in the prize position?

The pits at Wanganui are now extremelly DANGEROUS, Fans and crew with cigarettes going every where, how many bikes and people and GAS all in such a tight confined space?

It is now a recipe for a dissaster

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well I've been riding dirtbikes on and off at Wangas for years...and I think they're over doing the motard thing. Fuck the off road section. It's a road race meeting. One motard class. We don't want to outstay our welcome.

[Shaun]

Well I've been riding dirtbikes on and off at Wangas for years...and I think they're over doing the motard thing. Fuck the off road section. It's a road race meeting. One motard class. We don't want to outstay our welcome.

Well said, and from an x road racer, thankyou for saying so

[scott411]

Well I've been riding dirtbikes on and off at Wangas for years...and I think they're over doing the motard thing. Fuck the off road section. It's a road race meeting. One motard class. We don't want to outstay our welcome.

i would be under the impression that the club had the choice, they run the thing, and they run it as they see fit,