50cc scooter ride to Pram

**Swix** · 28th February 2008, 20:23

Hey guys im trying to find out all the back roads to get to pram from wellington on a 50cc scooter (seeing i cant use the motorway) and wanted to know if any of the backroads were over 50mph and if i can even make it all the way to pram on 50mph roads anyone know at all me and my mate want to drive up there

**Jantar** · 28th February 2008, 20:46

I can understand why you wouldn't want to use the motorway. But why can't you?

**Gubb** · 28th February 2008, 20:48

Wellington -> Karori -> Ngaio -> Johnsonville -> Tawa -> Porirua -> Whitby -> Paekak Hill -> Pram

**Grub** · 28th February 2008, 21:52

Yep, the one tricky bit is Paekak to Pram because there is no backroad until you get to Poplar Ave. Only the bit from the Car Haulaways yard to Poplar is 100kmh, the rest is 80 or 70.

It sounds like a really cool trip for scooters, kind of like our 200km road trips. It takes all day, it's a great adventure and you have spread your wings.

Do it. Here's the route map

This is sort of the route I take on the pushbike although there are some places you can go that I haven't included on the map
- Ngauranga Gorge is used by pushbikes as long as you go along Kaiwharawara Rd and not the motorway
- From J'ville, you must follow this route all the way to Porirua
- At the second Porirua 'motorway' entrance, you are allowed on the road north, it's not motorway
- From there SH1 is not motorway but it is narrow and busy so Paekak Hill might be a cool adventure. Perhaps do it one way only in which case that would be going north as the gradient is very gentle all the way to the top.

**Gubb** · 28th February 2008, 21:56

Originally Posted by Hubba Gubba

Wellington -> Karori -> Makara-> Johnsonville -> Tawa -> Porirua -> Whitby -> Paekak Hill -> Pram

**Swix** · 29th February 2008, 01:59

thanks alot to everyone and a very big thanks to grub very big help indeed we were gonna go thu Makara and still might, so looks like me and my mate will do this one wooooooo gonna be fun prob after that we will try for somthing more longer

Maybe we can go thu makara then thu Ohariu Valley then hook onto Westhaven/Tawa?? i can see the road but it dont connect anyone know if we cold get thu that way?

**Gubb** · 29th February 2008, 06:57

Ohariu Valley Road connects to Churton Park, follow Middleton Rd/Glenfield Road to Tawa.

**davereid** · 29th February 2008, 17:07

Originally Posted by Jantar

I can understand why you wouldn't want to use the motorway. But why can't you?

The weirdness of the law...

If I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a motorcycle, I get cheap rego, have to get a wof, but can ride it on the motorway. (Although I may get a ticket if I go real slow and hold traffic up.)

But if I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a moped, I get cheap rego, but I dont need a wof, and I can't legally take it on the motorway.

But - I can legally ride it on any road, even 100m/hr roads as long as they are not gazetted as a "motorway".

I guess its the same if I rode a push bike, or a horse. Legal on a highway, just not on a motorway.

**Swix** · 29th February 2008, 19:57

Originally Posted by davereid

The weirdness of the law...

If I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a motorcycle, I get cheap rego, have to get a wof, but can ride it on the motorway. (Although I may get a ticket if I go real slow and hold traffic up.)

But if I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a moped, I get cheap rego, but I dont need a wof, and I can't legally take it on the motorway.

But - I can legally ride it on any road, even 100m/hr roads as long as they are not gazetted as a "motorway".

I guess its the same if I rode a push bike, or a horse. Legal on a highway, just not on a motorway.

But it is illegal to register your moped as a motorbike

**Jantar** · 29th February 2008, 20:52

Originally Posted by davereid

The weirdness of the law...

If I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a motorcycle, I get cheap rego, have to get a wof, but can ride it on the motorway. (Although I may get a ticket if I go real slow and hold traffic up.)

But if I register my 1967 suzuki A50 as a moped, I get cheap rego, but I dont need a wof, and I can't legally take it on the motorway.

But - I can legally ride it on any road, even 100m/hr roads as long as they are not gazetted as a "motorway".

I guess its the same if I rode a push bike, or a horse. Legal on a highway, just not on a motorway.

As I recall the A50 was 4.5 HP which is over the 2kW limit for it to be a moped. I used to regularly get 85 kmh out of my one, and once, down a steep hill with a tail wind, I saw 105 kmh on the speedo, just before the engine blew.

However, back to the point about motorways, I certainly wouldn't want to take a 50cc machine on a motorway, but I've looked through the Traffic Regulations, and as far as I can see it isn't actually illegal.

**Swix** · 29th February 2008, 23:12

but the min speed on the motorway is 80 isnt it?

**Jantar** · 29th February 2008, 23:23

Originally Posted by Swix

but the min speed on the motorway is 80 isnt it?

Nope. There is no minimum speed, but it would be rather unsafe to ride it at too low a speed. There is also the point that if the minimum speed on the motorway was 80 then it would illegal for school busses as that is their maximum permitted speed.