Affordable four-stroke single GP bikes?

[k14]

Yes ok Idle, you win. We're all wrong and you're right. You should be president.

[idleidolidyll]

Idle. Open your mind. The laptimes provided on mylaps are transponder generated. No Fiction, No reaction time, just the plane truth. Terry Fitzgerald now holds the F3 lap record at Pukekohe with a time of 1.03. Prod s/bikes are doing 56's and 600's are doing 58's.

and? the claim was 1.02 for F3 at Puke not 1.03

These times were recorded with the AMB transponder timing system run by Tim & Joan Gibbs. The same system used by NZV8's and many other top race series in this country.
I said at the start of this string that you should haul your head out of the dark place you have inserted it and get up to speed with the current Motorcycle race scene. You claim to have been a pretty good rider, but, you are only as good as your last effort, and currently you seem to be way out of touch with the real world.

if the 'real world is a bunch of whiners who kick out valid bikes because the bars are too high based on emotion and bullshit; i don't want to get 'up to speed' you pussies can keep it

however, the points I've made are not negated by lap times. Banning high bars is bullshit and detrimental to the sport. It's based on jealousy and emotion not on empirical evidence of danger.

The new KTM single IS said to be lapping within 2 seconds of the top 600's and that would equate to a faster time than the current F3 class. Yes, that's with a fairing and clip ons but given that it's the same engine/chassis, a Duke on a shorter track with more corners would be likely to be similarly quick.

Frankly, I wish you F3 riders and MNZ would pull your heads out of the dark smelly holes they seem to be firmly inserted in and see what damage you've done and continue to do to racing in NZ.

The comment passed on another thread that this was the best season ever remains totally laughable.

[idleidolidyll]

Yes ok Idle, you win. We're all wrong and you're right. You should be president.

who's all?

you stated 1.02 and 1.05 then offer slower times as proof

yep i'm still laughing

president? who the fuck cares

[k14]

who's all?

you stated 1.02 and 1.05 then offer slower times as proof

yep i'm still laughing

president? who the fuck cares

No, I never stated 1.02. Now you're just making things up to get an argument going. Obviously you're not getting any you're a grumpy and pedantic old bastard.

[Ivan]

What are you smoking ivan? The Aprilia RSB125 (what Bradley Smith and Talmasci) are on this year is the best 125 out there. If you can make one that is faster and handles better you better give the KTM factory a ring, they might give you a job.

If you've got a spare $100k or so you can buy last years bike 2nd hand from a team in europe.

I didnt mean that.

I ment a factory should come make something better than the Aprillia thatd be awsome to see I mean keep the class alive with more Mans coming in and making new bikes

[Ivan]

Anyway, back on topic. The first round of the Auzzie champs have been run and there was one Moriwaki 250 4 stroke running in the 125 class.

Looks very promising, getting to within 4 seconds of the leading 125 rider Blake Leigh-Smith. Who I would assume would be on his fully spec'd Honda that he rode last year trying to qualify for the 125GP race at Philip Island. Very promising for the first outing, will be good to see the progress as the season goes on.

Nah Blake rides a Aussie Spec bike still trick.
What he Qualified on for the Aus GP was a Europeon spec bike.
But this season he is not racing in Europe again

I know thisDirect through him.

That RS he rode in Europe wernt even a Honda it was a Hand built engine based around a Honda Motor in a RS Chassis with Modified engine mounts that sat the motor further forward to keep the bike more stable in high speed corners pretty technical stuff.

But I think this season Jackos racing in Europe
And Blake is doing some 600 racing on a R6

[k14]

I didnt mean that.

I ment a factory should come make something better than the Aprillia thatd be awsome to see I mean keep the class alive with more Mans coming in and making new bikes

What, like KTM are doing now? You can own one for about $30k brand new straight out of the factory.

[idleidolidyll]

No, I never stated 1.02. Now you're just making things up to get an argument going. Obviously you're not getting any you're a grumpy and pedantic old bastard.

No, you may not have but someone did and that's when the whole lap time red herring started.

the fact that the handlebar ban is a fuck up that punishes the fastest growing group to road racing also remains

the thread asks where the affordable 4 stroke single GP bikes are.

use your brain, if the singles 4 strokes are banned by emotive bullshit that's part of the answer

I reckon 125's should be booted out of all F3 races: they take such different lines and are therefore dangerous......................smae kind of argument

[Ivan]

No, you may not have but someone did and that's when the whole lap time red herring started.

the fact that the handlebar ban is a fuck up that punishes the fastest growing group to road racing also remains

the thread asks where the affordable 4 stroke single GP bikes are.

use your brain, if the singles 4 strokes are banned by emotive bullshit that's part of the answer

I reckon 125's should be booted out of all F3 races: they take such different lines and are therefore dangerous......................smae kind of argument

Mate at Vic Club125's are banned from F3,
I dotn know why This dumb discussion needs to be brought into every thread this is all about a suitable GPclass and how turning a MotX bike into a road racer is awsome not about some fucken shit about some Handle Bar Heightsin GP Racing they use Clip ons, This is GP racing Thread, So I dotn think your gonna see your high handle bars in here aye there is a dirt bike section that youl get a better response from.

[Ivan]

What, like KTM are doing now? You can own one for about $30k brand new straight out of the factory.

Yeah I mean like itd be good if Yamaha and Honda kept in it and kept competing and itd be good with the likes of Suzuki Kawasaki etc

[Sketchy_Racer]

Idleidloidyll,

First of all, Motards have thier own class, they can piss off to that.
If you bike isn't a motard or isnt a road bike, maybe it's an adventure bike, why are you trying to race a adventure bike? You might be able to fit it into bears some where, that's great, but if it doesn't, your stupid fault for buying a bike to race that has no class.

Motards WONT be faster around the likes of taupo than a road bike that's had the same amount of suspension development as the opponent motard.

I have a 125, i wanna race it in F3, but they wont let me.. aww it must be because they know i'll whip thier arses around tracks like taupo if they do.

Yeah, Right

It's got nothing to do with which bike is faster, it's to do with sticking to your own, F3 is for F3 bikes, yeah those ancient 4cyl 4T that cost to much. If you don't like them, then don't buy one, but don't fucking bitch about the fact that you can't come steal grid positions in their class. Get a bike that suits YOU and that suits the Class the bike is elegible in.

And quit going on about your back damnit. So your old and broken, maybe racing isn't for you, Or maybe, buy a bike that you can ride, and ride it in the class your allowed to and shut the fuck up about the fact you can't come into the formula classes on it!

[k14]

Idleidloidyll,

First of all, Motards have thier own class, they can piss off to that.
If you bike isn't a motard or isnt a road bike, maybe it's an adventure bike, why are you trying to race a adventure bike? You might be able to fit it into bears some where, that's great, but if it doesn't, your stupid fault for buying a bike to race that has no class.

Motards WONT be faster around the likes of taupo than a road bike that's had the same amount of suspension development as the opponent motard.

I have a 125, i wanna race it in F3, but they wont let me.. aww it must be because they know i'll whip thier arses around tracks like taupo if they do.

Yeah, Right

It's got nothing to do with which bike is faster, it's to do with sticking to your own, F3 is for F3 bikes, yeah those ancient 4cyl 4T that cost to much. If you don't like them, then don't buy one, but don't fucking bitch about the fact that you can't come steal grid positions in their class. Get a bike that suits YOU and that suits the Class the bike is elegible in.

And quit going on about your back damnit. So your old and broken, maybe racing isn't for you, Or maybe, buy a bike that you can ride, and ride it in the class your allowed to and shut the fuck up about the fact you can't come into the formula classes on it!

Amen to that!

[svr]

who's all?

you stated 1.02 and 1.05 then offer slower times as proof

yep i'm still laughing

president? who the fuck cares

It was me: check it:
http://www.mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=740740

Was announced as 1:02.8 at the track
Do that on ya chookie!

[Dodgy]

Yay, go sketchy racer!

Idle idiot (or whatever he is called) is obviously some resentful, spiteful old shit in dire need of a BJ.

I cant understand people who understand the rules and then rant on why they arent allowed to race their bike in said class. Motards do have their own class as do 125GP and 600SP etc. I used to love racing the 125 in F3 and carving up the tractors, but it was great for us to get our own class too. What retard would buy a bike to race in a particular class knowing full well it isnt eligible?

[Ivan]

Yay, go sketchy racer!

Idle idiot (or whatever he is called) is obviously some resentful, spiteful old shit in dire need of a BJ.

I cant understand people who understand the rules and then rant on why they arent allowed to race their bike in said class. Motards do have their own class as do 125GP and 600SP etc. I used to love racing the 125 in F3 and carving up the tractors, but it was great for us to get our own class too. What retard would buy a bike to race in a particular class knowing full well it isnt eligible?

Yeah Go Sketchy That was a crack up,