If it was, then I highly doubt the BIOS would even recognise the drive, let alone boot it.Originally Posted by Waxxa
Anyway, my old man used to say to me "once you have tried the possible, then try the impossible."
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If it was, then I highly doubt the BIOS would even recognise the drive, let alone boot it.
Anyway, my old man used to say to me "once you have tried the possible, then try the impossible."
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It really does smell to me like a driver hanging the kernel due to someone letting the magic smoke out of one of your mobo peripherals.
But, then, I'm just a programmer, I know very little about actual matters of computer maintenance, etc...
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Not even Vista does that.
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cough, boot an Ubuntu CD and ask dmesg.
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Its not the HD, or the RAM. If it was, Windows would most likely blue screen, or like Dangerous said, not boot at all.
I reckon the updated chipset your installing has an issue with some piece of hardware connected to the board or another driver, or maybe isnt for the right chipset.
Personally, I either wouldnt bother installing the later chipset, or find an even later one on the net if there is one.
DL this little app to see what chipset you have, and go from there.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
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The Bios has nothing to do with the actual operation of the HD. You would see the Bios run through and should recognise the HD regardless, whether the HD operates or not.
Are you getting the XP splash screen? Then is it 'freezing' then looping back around to the splash screen again? Or are able to get to a desktop?
Wish it all away...
It starts and logs on to Win XP as per usual, so you get to the desktop as per usual. You might say, click start, then internet, or something else like open My Documents, which will take longer than usual but work, then it'll freeze shortly afterwards and will not unfreeze unless you press reset. While it's frozen it won't respond to keyboard inputs or mouse clicks, but I can still move the pointer.
Soapbox house of cards and glass, so don't go tossing your stones around.
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I feel for you as you're spending good money and whoever has your PC is yanking your chain. Nobody who's charging by the hour would "test a motherboard"...the labour is worth more than the mobo. Generally if a motherboard appears farked* then I tell peeps it's an uneconomical repair unless they can reinstall one themselves. By the time you in new mobo (nobody would replace a farked mobo thats outside its warranty with the same "old" model) and possibly install a new CPU and RAM to go with it you're talking a fair amount of dollars. Add the time to reinstall XP, drivers and possibly migrate user data and reinstall applications and you're normally cheaper buying a new base unit.
The guys who mentioned knoppix or ubuntu live CD's with memtest32 know what they're talking about. The best way to test an XP system is with UBCD for Windows CD as it basically loads windows and drivers from a CD. If this works then generally your hardware is OK.
I've seen Windoze running for hours on end with underpowered PSU's or farked ram. Weird stuff like pushing the eject button on the DVD drive can then send the PSU over the edge or starting up the wrong app can make dodgy ram rear its ugly head and cause the BSOD.
If it is your mobo's built in ethernet card then just disable it in the bios and shove in a <$10 replacement.
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1)Try knoppix live or ubuntu CD, if it works try UBCD4Win
2)Replace RAM (or run memtest32, the former is quicker if you have some spare lying around) - Retry live CD
3)Unplug all the drives and any cards not necessary - If onboard video card not used then replace - Retry live CD
If it's still not giving joy at this stage then you're leaning towards the "motherboard is farked" stage.
4) Plug cards and drives in one at a time until it farks out again
Total time about 30 minutes
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sounds like a faulty IDE fan. reinstall office from your original floppy disks.
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Too many dilithium crystals captain. The PSU canna take it, she's gonna blow.
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OK...so you can boot-up to the desktop but when you want to do 'something' it freezes.....mmmm.
Have you looked in Task Manager, under processes tab, your 'System Idle Process' should be in the mid to high 90% range. If you see a process other than this one taking up a huge portion of the system resources, end it.
Have you also keeped your anti-virus licence up to date and installed the latest updates? A number of viruses are designed to take up the PCs system resources (memory in particular) thereby you are unable to do any action on a program for a long period of time, if at all.
To me personally its not your mobo or devices connected to it cause you are getting graphics, booting up to a desktop alright (so finding your boot files OK, like its not looping, which kind of rules out my HD theory).
Slight chance it could be RAM, but your not getting beep codes (are you?) its loading graphics OK and the OS, but seems like something is hogging all the memory preventing anything else happening once you have booted up.
Check Task Manager, possibly get a better anti-virus program (if you dont already have one) and give the PC a scan for trojans and the like. Post up your progression.
Wish it all away...
*Sigh* I really can't afford these f**ks to be charging me by the hour (half hour actually). So if they're really racking up as much time as they seem to be, I'm not interested in paying for it. I've just talked to them on the phone and they reassured me they were taking so long because they'd only just started looking at it. Um, is that any better..? Might be cheaper, but...
Sounds like something I ought to try, only, I really don't know enough about these things to be able to troubleshoot around these pointers and figure out what's going wrong. No doubt there are people around who do know about this kind of stuff and can possibly help in that regard... but it appears the people testing my motherboard might not be then.
Pretty much precisely it, yes.
Cannot get into the Task Manager in time after Windows has started; it usually freezes up too quickly.
The HDDs have both been formatted before Windows XP and SP2 have been installed. Nothing else has been in contact with the computer other than install files from legitimate CDs. There isn't a virus on the computer.
There isn't any activity happening on the system working indicator light, nor any HDD / CPU noises happening. The system locks and is doing nothing. Due to my having formatted the HDD and only just reinstalled Windoze when this started happening, I firmly believe it's hardware related. How? Pass.
Cannot do, as described above. As I've said, I very much doubt it's software related.
Soapbox house of cards and glass, so don't go tossing your stones around.
You musta been.... high. You musta been...
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