Bio fuel : clean and green

[Gubb]

Did you know ,apparently we dont have enough bio fuel in NZ or the means to make enough.
So we will be importing some of it

More than some of it mate, around 95% of the Ethanol will be imported, Fonterra can only produce enough to supply Gull, the 4 Majors have to import it.

[homer]

More than some of it mate, around 95% of the Ethanol will be imported, Fonterra can only produce enough to supply Gull, the 4 Majors have to import it.

Oh really ,
I didnt think it would have been that much
well i guess well be paying top buck for it !
Thought it may have been more like about 60 % imported
95% is a lot

[ElCoyote]

Ummm.... yep! 300 football fields in an hour clear-felled! Abhorrent!! but true...

M

Agreed, but ready to plant ?????? Regardless your sentiments are correct but don't forget you are dealing with corrupt individuals when Gubbernts are mentioned, like the entourage that wish to travel overseas at your expense, for what gain..................? Could that money, and the excess that Uncle Helen and her Femminazis spends help the enviroment better........Oh Yea.
Hetrosexuals unite.

[twotyred]

Bio-fuel is a disaster, a feel good greenie cop out far worse than so called "fossil" fuels. Food shortages are already skyrocketing worldwide as farmers turn their food crops into biofuel crops.

but that was always the game...

[ElCoyote]

[QUOTE
I love anty helen but she is starting to really fuck things up!!![/QUOTE]

Anty Helen? Really starting? He/She/It has fucked it up royally,and given another term we won't even be able to sell bananas to a zoo. Anty Helen and his escorts have reduced New Zealands reputation to that of an insignificant dictatorship, staffed by megolamaniacs, lesbians and femminazis. Fear not ,she/It is hoist by Her/It's petard and maybe..........just maybe NZ will revert to the paradise it was before the Loony left hijacked it.

[Coyote]

I like how the "greenies" are being blamed.

It's actually the other forms of government that want to be seen as giving a damn. They'll jump at the chance of going for something relatively easy that appears green, like ethanol. They won't go so far as forcing us to use public transport.

Not that I totally approve of buses with the mannerisms of some folk that tend to catch them...

But I don't think any of this factual information will make much of an impact on you Homer, aren't you the guy who doesn't believe man went to the moon,
and that 9/11 was a govt conspiracy
and that aliens exist but the government is covering it up,
and that the oil isn't really running out, the oil companies are just telling us that to increase profits,

Didn't Opec explicitly say that they're decreasing output at one stage intentionally? It really does sound like they're taking advantage of the irrationality of markets...

And we all know that the American government have Megatron and are stealing technology off of him.

[BiK3RChiK]

Didn't Opec explicitly say that they're decreasing output at one stage intentionally? It really does sound like they're taking advantage of the irrationality of markets...

Well! What it's all about profit after all, isn't it? (said cynically!)

M

[Gubb]

Oh really ,
I didnt think it would have been that much
well i guess well be paying top buck for it !
Thought it may have been more like about 60 % imported
95% is a lot

The pricing is still being worked out, although I can assure you that if Gull is able to keep it at the same level as fossils (which it is now), the majors won't let them get too far ahead of them with a pricing strategy.

July 1 should be the introduction date for at least two of the majors.

[homer]

The pricing is still being worked out, although I can assure you that if Gull is able to keep it at the same level as fossils (which it is now), the majors won't let them get too far ahead of them with a pricing strategy.

July 1 should be the introduction date for at least two of the majors.

Yep lets hope so

[Gubb]

Anywho, there will be two petrol alternatives, E3 and E10, E3 contains 3% Ethanol and will replace 91 octane, and E10 is 10% and will replace 98 octane.

Only downside is, I currently run my bike on 98, but I can't run E10, as my bike features rubber fuel lines, and Ethanol eats away at rubber. It will run the E3 without so many problems, but I don't get the same fuel economy, or internal cleaning benefits.

Then again, the Government mandate is to only replace 4% of their current fuel volume with Bio-fuels. So Fossils should still be readily available, you might just have to go a little further as stations will be Bio or Fossil fuels only.

Bio-diesel is sweet as, and will run in most vehicles with no issues, just not good for our aging Japanese car fleet.....

[Winston001]

Couple of points.

Apparently NZ will be importing bio-fuel from the USA made from rendered (waste) meat, which is subsidised within the US. NZ has the capacity to make this fuel but can't compete - should we slap on a tarrif to protect our own industry? There is a safety in being self-sufficent.

Bio-fuel can be made from wood pulp efficently and even better from algae. At the moment land-based crops are easiest but in the future these others sources will come into play.

[Coyote]

Only downside is, I currently run my bike on 98, but I can't run E10, as my bike features rubber fuel lines, and Ethanol eats away at rubber.

Sigh... guess we'll have to get bling braided lines then... darn