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    Petrol Increase = New Roads

    As we know the Government is going to sting us with 5c increase to improve the roads and than Auckland City are going to sting us with another 5c increase, so does that mean Auckland roads will be built twice as fast?

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    It doesn't go toward roading (sic) it just goes into the general fund.

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    Government already gets bout 70c per litre of fuel sold................would like to know what they do with it.Could tell ya what they DONT do with it.lol
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    Yet another reason to not live in Auckland, as if we needed it

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    What do want more roads for...

    Riding a bike that does 48mpg I am not going to sweat over petrol prices...$2.7ish a litre in UK...you may say they get paid more, however, $46 to fill up a bike is still a lot...let $100 plus for a car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul.Trader View Post
    Yet another reason to not live in Auckland, as if we needed it
    Have yet to find a reason myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Gnomb View Post
    As we know the Government is going to sting us with 5c increase to improve the roads and than Auckland City are going to sting us with another 5c increase, so does that mean Auckland roads will be built twice as fast?
    It is not going on roads (according to the propaganda), it is going on new trains and new ferries.

    Why cannot "user pays" fund these? They are run by private companies anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    It is not going on roads (according to the propaganda), it is going on new trains and new ferries.

    Why cannot "user pays" fund these? They are run by private companies anyway!
    It will be going on election bribes and self serving junkets. Factor in lots of help for low grade immigrants so they are kindly disposed to voting for the ''bitch from belsen''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    It is not going on roads (according to the propaganda), it is going on new trains and new ferries.

    Why cannot "user pays" fund these? They are run by private companies anyway!
    But take Auckland...having a better ferry service would make a difference....trains too...

    If user pays funded this the cost to them would go up...it goes up when fuel does...and then they would stop using the services.

    Govt funding in providing say more wharfs etc to improve ferry services is an investment in the future which is not always easy to account for but you have to look at the bigger picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    It will be going on election bribes and self serving junkets. Factor in lots of help for low grade immigrants so they are kindly disposed to voting for the ''bitch from belsen''
    Oh dear...not that old chesnut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    But take Auckland...having a better ferry service would make a difference....trains too...

    If user pays funded this the cost to them would go up...it goes up when fuel does...and then they would stop using the services.

    Govt funding in providing say more wharfs etc to improve ferry services is an investment in the future which is not always easy to account for but you have to look at the bigger picture
    I completely agree with the fact that Auckland requires new ifrastructure for public transport. Finishing the motorway "loop" should be priority #1, and then do nothing more on the motorways. Let them block up. All monies then get put into upgrading the public transport system.

    An additional tax on fuel is quite unfair. Everyone suffers the increase not only at the pump, but also in the supermarket where the additional transport cost will get passed onto the customer. Basically being charged twice.

    The funding for trains and ferries should come from a different funding source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    I completely agree with the fact that Auckland requires new ifrastructure for public transport. Finishing the motorway "loop" should be priority #1, and then do nothing more on the motorways. Let them block up. All monies then get put into upgrading the public transport system.

    An additional tax on fuel is quite unfair. Everyone suffers the increase not only at the pump, but also in the supermarket where the additional transport cost will get passed onto the customer. Basically being charged twice.

    The funding for trains and ferries should come from a different funding source.
    The problem is that ferry / train providers are affected by increase in road spending which is effectively incouraging people to use the car...the number of times I ride past the new bus station in Takapuna and the car parks are now where near full...

    So what happens is that use of ferries/ trains reduces...lack of fund for investment = reduced service = less and less enticing for population = more cars on roads etc etc

    It is only fair that they get investment...

    I mean on the North Shore they actually removed some bus services after the station was opened and after a fuss they have brought some back...

    New motorways are not the answer in a place like Auckland which is really just a wide on / off distributory. Motorways should be for long distant travel, like Auckland to Hamilton to Wellington, not a 50km stretch with about 30 or so off / on ramps.

    When the roads are busy on SH1 motorway up north...they will still suggest taking SH16...go the funding on motorways

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    Well petrol is something most need, and the current public transport system is hopeless...

    Most will still choose to run their own vehicles, I mean look at how many busses you would have to chop and change on to get from one side of the city to the other...Also the layout of the city isnt very well structured because of urbanisation etc..
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    Petrol tax is not only going to happen in Auckland
    I here the Waikato is going to be hit with petrol tax also
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    So, what happened to the (at least) 2 previous increases in petrol tax "to fund auckland transport". Paying for a lot of shiny arse useless civil servants in Wellington I suspect.
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