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Oh, so he's not bias in any way then? If you can't spell or are on an internet forum your opinion is worthless.Originally Posted by chris
If that was well researched I'd hate to see a badly researched article. But then I'm only on an internet forum. Here's a misspelt wrod so he has grounds to ignore me completely.
Oh well, guess we F4 and F5 riders have a long way to go.
Hardcore Biker
Maybe we should be thankfull for the article, any publicity is good publicity. Buckets dont get too much attention so this is good.
I thought under 14 yrs you had to race F5 not F4. That doesnt work out so well down here but Oysters junior training more than makes up for it.
Down here we are seeing a few Young Guns from street stock getting involved in buckets, its good for buckets and if it wasnt good for their racing I dont think they would bother.
My bucket isnt a ancient heap, its a 2001 FXR150 , half the field is FXR150 and that has made buckets into a reliable cost effective form of motorcycle racing. Buckets allows for virtually any modifications, so you can spend up if you want, still wont buy you a place on the podium, cos theres always a young guy with a 40kg advantage and no fear to contend with.
Forum whore
I think bucket racing rocks as a place to have a go at racing.
In my experience the people involved are more than happy to help you out with bike maintenance and advice and on the day letting you follow them around to learn lines.
Here in Welly we have learner runs, and everyone is really supportive of letting newbees out for a wee go. I've just instigated some ladies only races too cos some of us weren't so keen on footing it with the big bad boys (at least we weren't initially) and the organisers and other riders were really good about it.
Having been a tag along at the 'real serious grown up races' I can say the atmosphere at buckets is heaps better. A lot more encouraging, open and people are there to have fun..competition is important but people aren't all wrapt up in themselves. If we (and I know Sully will pipe up soon with WHEN we) were to get our boy into bike racing I'd certainly prefer him having a wee go at buckets to the serious racing and the motocross everytime!
I also recall that the lovely Mr Jay Lawrence got started in buckets - (might have been doing other things too not sure) but I remember him as a young un coming along and going around and around with the old fullas (sorry hun, skunk and all you other old fullas) at first they could even beat him! Remember those days old fullas?!!! That didn't last too long though - come a long way that ladGO JAY!!!
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I miss blithe arrogance from journalists.
No, hang on, I don't actually.
Big Dave did a lot of work for you.
Mike Esdaile just undid it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Queen of Chief and Victorious
So maybe Mike could rock on up to the BOB in June at Ruapuna, to see what Bucket racing or F4/F5 road racing or miniature road racing (or whatever we wanna call it now) is really like.
Not only will he get to see bucket racing in the flesh (so to speak), he can also see Oysters training in action with both Streetstock racing and rider training (in the breaks between racing) as part of the action.
Oh yeah and to stay on topic, generally I try not to crash and burn, and I certainly have not spent $1000's on my bucket
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Buells, for they are subtle and quick to wheelie!"
--J RR1000 Tolkien
yank tank at Glenorchy 2006 rally
In the riders seat
I think it has well and truly changed with the SS150 class, and I think perhaps in the past the so called perceived "crash and burn" mentality of the Buckets led to them being ignored by mainstream motorcycle clubs as a way to introduce young riders to road racing
Real writing with a real pen, paper and envelopes? are you guys to poor to have email?
Yes it was very well written and up unto that point I doubt I could fault anything, but that particular part of the article was inaccurate (apart from the aged bit) unless Buckets are very different in Auckland
Pretty sure we still can, it'd only take a couple of litres of gas and a lighter
Minimoto would be the obvious class and then move up to Buckets or SS150 but while motocross seems to have a well defined entry level and class structure to accommodate the younger riders road racing in this country doesn't
Good idea,I'll contribute towards his plane fare
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Hardcore Biker
No, hang on, I don't actually.
Big Dave did a lot of work for you.
Mike Esdaile just undid it.[/QUOTE]
'Opinions expressed in Kiwi Rider are not necessarily those of the editor or publisher blah blah blah'
Good grief, you lot are easier to wind up than a clock. If you have issues with Mike's article and want to challenge him, then write to Mike c/o KR. Or e-mail me and I'll pass them on.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Gee that sounds like fun, so we can get slandered by the 'I have the last word' response?
Or we could just not read the mag. I stopped subscribing a little while back. I had been subscribing as a habit started ironically as a prize subscription from a Bucket GP win.
But I got bored of it. Only Taylors infrequent articles had much interesting content for those with a tiny bit of technical interest. I think the last straw was when the Ed was doing a bunch of mods to the GasGas. Great, looks interesting. . . So what happened? He fitted some tyres & gave it back with bugger all report.
Pathetic! I can't respect a man like that. Lets all just feed the new bike sales market & ignore everyone else. yawn.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
MotoFXR's will rule the world!
I was in Westport last week with work and went in search of a copy, 2 servo's, 2 supermarkets and a diary later no KR to be found. Plenty of "other" bike mags though. Can we have a copy of the article put up here?
Even if we disagree with the article would writing to the author make a whole lot of difference........If he is so hot on research get him down to the Battle of Buckets in June.
Its harder to lose weight than gain horsepower.
In the riders seat
I'm sure we could find him a bike
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
MotoFXR's will rule the world!
Maybe even something he would like to crash........or even burn. Maybe we need to do our own article for KR........pity I carnt speal or rite propar.
Its harder to lose weight than gain horsepower.
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